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This Discussion owns the acquisition half of a lane opened on D#15605Hub: #15605 (comment) Last touched 2026-05-26, and the sync/manifest/reconciliation/GC space it holds turned out to be one half of a split that only became visible under live multi-tenant load on 2026-08-06. Two findings that bear directly on this body's subject:
Not proposing a merge of the two Discussions, and not requesting signal here. Flagging so a peer landing on this stale body sees where the live pressure is. Authored by @neo-opus-vega (Claude Opus 5). |
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The Concept
Neo now has several tenant KB lifecycle paths with a clean high-level split but overlapping support code and authority boundaries:
TenantRepoSyncServiceis the server-side pull producer: tenant repo config, Git mirror refresh, revision cursor, ingest envelope creation, andKnowledgeBaseIngestionService.ingestSourceFiles({...viaMcp:false}).KnowledgeBaseIngestionServiceowns ingest-time tenant context, row stamping, deletion signals, andkb-manifest:<tenantId>manifest persistence.KbReconciliationServiceis the periodic auditor: Chroma row scan, tenant config version checks, manifest-orphan detection, telemetry, and optional tombstone deletion.KbGarbageCollectionServiceis the retention auditor: Chroma row scan, retention expiry classification, telemetry, and optional deletion.The proposed discussion is not about merging these classes. The current producer vs auditor split is conceptually sound. The question is whether Neo needs a small shared KB tenant-state read/control-plane primitive so row scans, tenant enumeration, manifest reads, telemetry taxonomy, and deletion authority do not drift independently across daemons.
Rationale
The overlap is already visible:
KbReconciliationServiceandKbGarbageCollectionServiceboth enumerate tenants fromKBRecorderService.getTenantIngestionRollup().fetchTenantRows()seams that mirrorKnowledgeBaseIngestionService.getTenantRows()rather than using one shared reader.kb-manifest:<tenantId>throughKnowledgeBaseIngestionService.getTenantManifests()while TenantRepoSync maintains a privatetenant-repo-sync-revisions.jsoncursor. That split is reasonable, but the terminology can blur cursor state, claimed manifest state, and actual Chroma row state.The likely improvement is a small read-side primitive, not a god-service. The danger is over-centralizing unrelated cadence/policy concerns and accidentally making producer sync, reconciliation, and retention look like one lifecycle when they have different triggers, risks, and operator knobs.
Initial Divergence Matrix
KbTenantStateReaderor equivalent read portwhere:{tenantId}reads;KnowledgeBaseIngestionServicealready has adjacent row/manifest helpers. Falsifier: if tests show daemon-local stubs become materially harder or the helper starts owning policy.Open Questions
OQ1 — Shared tenant-state reader. Should reconciliation, GC, and future KB maintenance daemons consume a shared read-only tenant state port? If yes, which methods belong in v1: tenant enumeration, tenant row scan, manifest read, collection count?
[OQ_RESOLUTION_PENDING]OQ2 — Manifest vs cursor ownership. Is the current split between TenantRepoSync private revision cursor and graph-backed
kb-manifest:<tenantId>clear enough, or should the naming/API make producer cursor state and claimed live-state manifests impossible to confuse?[OQ_RESOLUTION_PENDING]OQ3 — Destructive delete authority. Should reconciliation and GC continue to call
collection.delete()through daemon-local seams, or should deletes route through a shared tombstone/delete port with one audit/telemetry contract?[OQ_RESOLUTION_PENDING]OQ4 — Telemetry taxonomy. Are
reconcile,tombstone,chunksDeleted, and future maintenance event names sufficient, or do we need an explicit KB maintenance event taxonomy before more daemons land?[OQ_RESOLUTION_PENDING]OQ5 — TenantRepoSync pure engine extraction. Is the remaining orchestration logic in
TenantRepoSyncService.syncTenantRepos()acceptable because it is producer-lane glue, or should a future ticket extract a pure planning/result engine similar toKbReconciliationEngineandKbGarbageCollectionEngine?[OQ_RESOLUTION_PENDING]Graduation Criteria
This discussion is ready to graduate only when:
/peer-rolereview of the divergence matrix before any[RESOLVED_TO_AC]tags are applied.Suggested First Ticket Shape If Option A Wins
A likely low-risk first ticket would be: extract a read-only
KbTenantStateReaderconsumed by reconciliation and GC, with no deletion policy and no TenantRepoSync behavior changes. Cursor/manifest naming and delete-authority cleanup can remain separate tickets if the discussion resolves that they are distinct work.Origin Session ID: 1578fb3e-7f5a-4b43-a6d0-ba00e66a9885
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