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To be consistent with the other two methods which have documented exceptions.


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To be consistent with the other two `list` methods (`remove` and `insert`) which have documented exceptions.
will see this notation frequently in the Python Library Reference.)
is specified, ``a.pop()`` removes and returns the last item in the list.
It raises an :exc:`IndexError` if the list is empty or the index is
outside the list range. (The square brackets around the *i* in the method
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I also think that we can remove this note. Since the [arg] notation is used all over the docs, here is not the right place for it.

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I agree--didn't want to do that on my own accord, but yes.

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(The square brackets around the i in the method signature denote that the parameter is optional, not that you should type square brackets at that position. You will see this notation frequently in the Python Library Reference.)

It's in the tutorial, which is introducing people to Python, and at the top of the page where this notation first appears.

Diátaxis says of tutorials:

A tutorial is an experience that takes place under the guidance of a tutor. A tutorial is always learning-oriented.

People do read through the tutorial from start to finish, and I think this is a good place to introduce and teach this notation.

@terryjreedy terryjreedy changed the title gh-114648: Added IndexError exception to tutorial. gh-114648: Add IndexError exception to tutorial datastructures list.pop entry Feb 1, 2024
@terryjreedy terryjreedy added needs backport to 3.11 only security fixes needs backport to 3.12 only security fixes labels Feb 1, 2024
@terryjreedy terryjreedy merged commit 57c3e77 into python:main Feb 1, 2024
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Thanks @ShivnarenSrinivasan for the PR, and @terryjreedy for merging it 🌮🎉.. I'm working now to backport this PR to: 3.11, 3.12.
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miss-islington pushed a commit to miss-islington/cpython that referenced this pull request Feb 1, 2024
…list.pop entry (pythonGH-114681)

Remove redundant explanation of optional argument.
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Co-authored-by: srinivasan <shivnaren@gmail.com>
miss-islington pushed a commit to miss-islington/cpython that referenced this pull request Feb 1, 2024
…list.pop entry (pythonGH-114681)

Remove redundant explanation of optional argument.
(cherry picked from commit 57c3e77)

Co-authored-by: srinivasan <shivnaren@gmail.com>
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GH-114841 is a backport of this pull request to the 3.12 branch.

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GH-114842 is a backport of this pull request to the 3.11 branch.

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terryjreedy pushed a commit that referenced this pull request Feb 1, 2024
… list.pop entry (GH-114681) (#114841)

Remove redundant explanation of optional argument.
(cherry picked from commit 57c3e77)

Co-authored-by: srinivasan <shivnaren@gmail.com>
terryjreedy pushed a commit that referenced this pull request Feb 1, 2024
… list.pop entry (GH-114681) (#114842)

Remove redundant explanation of optional argument.
(cherry picked from commit 57c3e77)

Co-authored-by: srinivasan <shivnaren@gmail.com>
aisk pushed a commit to aisk/cpython that referenced this pull request Feb 11, 2024
…list.pop entry (python#114681)

Remove redundant explanation of optional argument.
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