Questions about running G-Helper with Armoury Crate still installed

[TrentEsq]

Hello!
I have a Strix G18 (i9-13980HX & RTX 4080) and have a few questions before I give the app a go,

I plan to keep Armoury Crate installed (MyAsus is uninstalled) to avoid any issues (potentially) occuring after a Bios update/flash. I would think it's very highly unlikely that any conflict/issue occurs after booting to OS due to Armoury Crate being absent after a Bios update, however Asus is Asus and it took a couple Bios updates for faster than 4800 Ram speeds to be usable, as well as for them to unlock the Cpu for extended undervolting. Plus, since they don't include a changelog whatsoever with their Bios updates I'd rather play it safe and just disable Armoury in the case it gets re-installed/set to re-install via a future Bios update.

So the plan is - start/run g-helper, configure g-helper to start at boot, disable Armoury Crate Service via Services App in Windows, disable all Asus tasks in Task Scheduler, reboot.

Would g-helper pull the currently applied settings when being ran for the first time? I have Armoury set to the 'Performance' profile, so would g-helper mirror/reflect as such?

I noticed the three profile settings in g-helper are Silent, Balanced, & Turbo, but Armoury is Silent, Performance, & Turbo
Does 'Balanced' = 'Performance'? As in, does it pull from the 'Performance' profile settings in Bios to utilize for the 'Balanced' profile?

Since I have 'Performance' set in Armoury and in Windows Power Plan as well, would an issue arise from runnnig g-helper for the first time with those settings already in effect beforehand? I ask because in the 'Recommendations' section it's strongly recommended to set Windows to the 'Balanced' power plan when running g-helper, is that for a critical reason?

I know all of that sounds roundabout as opposed to just following the g-helper setup guide as it has been written, but it's been a bit of a task setting up this notebook to a point where I'm happy with it (undervolting, looking up what all the Asus bloat/services/scheduled tasks do and disabling them, figuring out bootloops after updating Bios, etc.), and any answers given would be much appreciated!

[seerge]

@TrentEsq hello,

You can try and just run app along with AC, it's ok. I just recommend to set windows power plan to Balanced (as it's not limiting PC anyhow, and most optimal). Just in case AC will override power plan back to it's own as soon as you set something in it.

If you will set modes / any settings in G-Helper it will override what was set by AC prior to that until AC overrides them back.

[TrentEsq]

Got it, thank you for the reply!
I completed the steps as I described - ran G-Helper, disabled all Armoury items in Services & Task Scheduler, changed Windows power plan to 'Balanced', rebooted. All went smoothly/without issue & all functions seem to work properly.
(Except that even having disabled 'Asus Smart Display Control' from auto-running in Task Scheduler, it still persisted in auto-running even after restart/reboot, so I had to manually terminate it in Task Manager)

Two more questions,
I leave the charger plugged in at all times, never use sleep/hibernate, perform a full shutdown when not using the notebook, have disabled 'Modern Standy'(S0 Low Power Idle) via RegEdit, & have disabled FastBoot in Bios. Will the 'Battery Charge Limit' function persist even when the notebook is shutdown, as it did with the MyAsus 'Battery Care' function?

In G-Helper - 'Extra Settings-->Other-->Log'
What does the 'AutoSetting for Online' correspond to?

Again, thank you for your time and the awesome app! =)

[seerge]

Battery charge limit is same setting in bios as myasus sets

Online in log = plugged in

[TrentEsq]

Got it, thank you!

I was looking at the fan curves of each profile in G-Helper, and I noticed that as I switched between them, it was also switching the gpu mode in real-time. I didn't think anything of it and switched back to 'Ultimate', however when I booted up a game I noticed that some effects were no longer rendering properly and most noticeably, all blacks/dark colours were rendered as if at a lower resolution/blocky/pixelated. I checked resolution settings in Nvidia Control Panel, as well as in Windows Display settings, and everything looked normal.
I then switched to the 'standard' gpu mode, rebooted, and upon booting the same game, everything was rendering correctly again, switched back to 'ultimate', rebooted, the problem returned. I updated the Nvidia driver, but the problem persists.
Do you have any insight as to what could be going on with the 'ultimate' gpu mode on my notebook for it not to be rendering colours/effects properly? Maybe a setting that G-Helper changes that I should look for?

Thanks in advance!

[seerge]

Switching between performance modes (top row) doesn't touch anything about GPU.

If you mean GPU modes - they obviously turn dGPU on or off. I wold advice to check readme about all this https://github.com/seerge/g-helper

Ultimate mode just routes your internal display to dGPU, but since you have advanced optimus you don't really need it in a first place. You can safely keep GPU in Standard all the time.

G-Helper doesn't touch (and can't really) touch any driver settings for your GPU tho :) (with an exception of slight overclocking under fans+power, but only if you change it there). All this settings are same as in Armoury Crate.

[TrentEsq]

Understood, & the cause looks to have been an update to 'Asus Control Center Interface' I applied recently. The timing of it all worked out to the point where I didn't notice the colour-banding until after disabling Armoury/MyAsus & getting started with G-Helper.

Apologies for considering G-Helper as a potential cause of the issue, & Thank You for all your help and time thusfar.
Asus would do well to notice your skills & contact you to offer a paying position/contracting work to develop software for them.

[BBarfryyy]

Hello,
i discovered Ghelper recently, i love how its simple and fast. However, I noticed that I cant handle RGB with it, except on startup...
I have a rog strix G15 and AC still installed. Did you noticed somthing like this too ?
Thanks

[AraeAryrha]

As you I got 98 °C on CPU ans GPU while in game, I Guess it is normal for laptops. I use a 25 W CPU config, agressive fan curves and GPU overclocking and I get little bit better temps.

Oh, is it normal? I thought reaching 98°C was bad. How many FPS do you usually get when playing a game?

[seerge]

@AraeAryrha it looks ok :)

• You can limit CPU even more later (literally limit it until you see actual drop in performance)
• I see that you have undervolted CPU in Advanced. It's fine, but if game will crash you can set it back to 0 (as it pretty much says in a red warning box)

[AraeAryrha]

@seerge Oh, okay, thanks for the advice. The other settings are good, right? The problem might just happen if I change settings in the advanced section.

[BBarfryyy]

As you I got 98 °C on CPU ans GPU while in game, I Guess it is normal for laptops. I use a 25 W CPU config, agressive fan curves and GPU overclocking and I get little bit better temps.

Oh, is it normal? I thought reaching 98°C was bad. How many FPS do you usually get when playing a game?

Yeah it is normal on laptops, not on desktops. Lets say that in laptops, components are ""programmed"" to go at this high temps.
I dont know like that but i got 144 FPS on valorant un high (1080p), same for LoL, and 60 on ark survival evolved with mid graphs settings

[seerge]

@AraeAryrha its fine.