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Confirmed PIDs

Sertel Şekerci edited this page Aug 9, 2026 · 5 revisions

Confirmed PIDs — Voge 900DSX (LX900-A / BMW F900 platform, Loncin 4M96001 engine)

Every request in this table has been verified to return a real, correctly-decoded value on this bike (not just "no error") via live on-bike testing with a Bluetooth ELM327 adapter. This should generalize to other bikes on the same BMW F900 platform (Voge/Loncin 4M96001), though exact values may vary by model year/ECU revision — verify against a real ride before trusting any of it.

This is the same list the app polls (BluetoothOBDManager.CONFIRMED_PID_MAP), and the app's own Bike Info tab shows a live version of it — a green/red/gray dot per row for whether the last request on the current connection actually matched what was expected, not just a static claim.

Headers used: 7E0 = engine ECU (Bosch ME17.8.10), 7E1 = ABS/IMU module.

Reference vehicle (via Mode 09, cross-checked with another OBD app — PID 0902/0904): VIN LLCVPX1A8RA150987, calibration ID 8814LX28502BLXMT. Worth checking against when cross-referencing another BMW F900-platform bike's CAN/DID data (e.g. the community CAN-ID spreadsheet) — different calibration revisions can shift layouts even on the same platform.

✅ Confirmed working

Standard OBD-II (SAE J1979, Mode 01/03)

These follow the standard and should work on most OBD-II-compliant vehicles, not just this one.

Header PID Signal
7E0 010C RPM
7E0 010D Speed
7E0 0111 Throttle position
7E0 0105 Coolant temp
7E0 0131 Distance since DTC clear (not the real lifetime odometer — resets on Mode 04 clear)
7E0 0142 Battery / control module voltage
7E0 010F Intake air temp
7E0 0104 Engine load
7E0 0146 Ambient air temp
7E0 010B Intake manifold pressure (MAP)
7E0 010E Timing advance
7E0 011F Engine run time
7E0 0121 Distance with MIL on
7E0 013C Catalyst temp, Bank 1 Sensor 1
7E0 013D Catalyst temp, Bank 2 Sensor 1
7E0 0106 Short-term fuel trim, Bank 1
7E0 0107 Long-term fuel trim, Bank 1
7E0 0108 Short-term fuel trim, Bank 2
7E0 0109 Long-term fuel trim, Bank 2
7E0 0114 O2 sensor voltage/trim, Bank 1 Sensor 1
7E0 0118 O2 sensor voltage/trim, Bank 2 Sensor 1
7E0 0143 Absolute load value
7E0 0144 Commanded equivalence ratio
7E0 0145 Relative throttle position
7E0 0147 Throttle position B
7E0 0149 Accelerator pedal position D
7E0 014A Accelerator pedal position E
7E0 014C Commanded throttle actuator
7E0 0101 MIL status / stored DTC count
7E0 03 Stored DTCs (Mode 03, decoded per SAE J2012)

Manufacturer UDS DIDs (7E1 header) are covered in Not working below — as of 2026-08-09 none of them have ever returned real data on this bike; see that section for how this was checked.

❌ Not working

All seven rows below were listed as confirmed in an earlier pass of this doc. Cross-checked 2026-08-09 against every real (non-simulated) ride ever recorded in the app's own database (55k+ records going back to 2026-08-01, excluding the day's 3 known-simulated test rides) — every one of these columns is exactly zero in every single real record, never once a nonzero value, which the diagnostic log's failures for the same requests corroborate.

Header PID/DID Signal Response
7E0 2243F7 Gear 7F 22 31, even with a UDS Extended Diagnostic Session actively granted (50 03)
7E0 222503 ECU odometer 7F 22 31, same as Gear
7E1 222B05 Front brake pressure NO DATA
7E1 222B06 Rear brake pressure NO DATA
7E1 22D10D Lean angle (bike IMU) NO DATA
7E0 012F Fuel level NO DATA
7E0 015E Fuel rate NO DATA
7E0 43FE Unmapped 7F 22 31, even with the session granted
7E0 43FF Unmapped 7F 22 31, same as 43FE

Checking the recorded DB instead of just grepping the log for failures is what caught fuel level/rate and the two brake DIDs — a live spot-check earlier the same day had wrongly reported "yes, fuel level and rate work" going only off this doc's stale confirmed table. The extended-session hypothesis for 2243F7/222503/43FE/43FF was separately disproved the same day (session granted, 50 03, all four still failed identically) — root cause for any row above is still open.

Two related open leads, not request/response PIDs so they don't fit the table above:

  • Lean angle broadcast on the raw CAN bus22D10D never answers on request (see above), but there's reason to believe the IMU also broadcasts lean angle passively on the bus without being asked. The app's raw CAN monitor (Bike Info) exists to capture and manually correlate this against known bike tilt, for anyone who wants to find the broadcasting CAN ID.
  • Gear signal on the raw CAN bus — a 1-2-N-1 shift test against a passive CAN capture (2026-08-09) found no CAN ID with a clean 3-transition pattern matching the three shifts; the earlier 12B lead from a prior session's stall-event capture didn't repeat here either. Still unconfirmed.

How this list was built

Combination of: SAE J1979 standard PID scanning (sweepStandardPidSupport() in the app), manual UDS DID sweeps across the two confirmed-responsive headers (7E0, 7E1), and cross-referencing another OBD app's raw sensor dumps against real dashboard readings taken at the same time. PIDs that returned data but couldn't be correlated to a real, verifiable value on the bike are deliberately left out of this list rather than included as a guess. As of 2026-08-09, entries are also periodically cross-checked against the app's own recorded ride database rather than trusted from the original sweep alone - see Not working above for what that caught.

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