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Confirmed PIDs

Sertel Şekerci edited this page Aug 9, 2026 · 5 revisions

Confirmed PIDs — Voge 900DSX (LX900-A / BMW F900 platform, Loncin 4M96001 engine)

Every request in this table has been verified to return a real, correctly-decoded value on this bike (not just "no error") via live on-bike testing with a Bluetooth ELM327 adapter. This should generalize to other bikes on the same BMW F900 platform (Voge/Loncin 4M96001), though exact values may vary by model year/ECU revision — verify against a real ride before trusting any of it.

This is the same list the app polls (BluetoothOBDManager.CONFIRMED_PID_MAP), and the app's own Bike Info tab shows a live version of it — a green/red/gray dot per row for whether the last request on the current connection actually matched what was expected, not just a static claim.

Headers used: 7E0 = engine ECU (Bosch ME17.8.10), 7E1 = ABS/IMU module.

Reference vehicle (via Mode 09, cross-checked with another OBD app — PID 0902/0904): VIN LLCVPX1A8RA150987, calibration ID 8814LX28502BLXMT. Worth checking against when cross-referencing another BMW F900-platform bike's CAN/DID data (e.g. the community CAN-ID spreadsheet) — different calibration revisions can shift layouts even on the same platform.

✅ Confirmed working

Standard OBD-II (SAE J1979, Mode 01/03)

These follow the standard and should work on most OBD-II-compliant vehicles, not just this one.

Header PID Signal
7E0 010C RPM
7E0 010D Speed
7E0 0111 Throttle position
7E0 0105 Coolant temp
7E0 0131 Distance since DTC clear (not the real lifetime odometer — resets on Mode 04 clear)
7E0 015E Fuel rate
7E0 012F Fuel level
7E0 0142 Battery / control module voltage
7E0 010F Intake air temp
7E0 0104 Engine load
7E0 0146 Ambient air temp
7E0 010B Intake manifold pressure (MAP)
7E0 010E Timing advance
7E0 011F Engine run time
7E0 0121 Distance with MIL on
7E0 013C Catalyst temp, Bank 1 Sensor 1
7E0 013D Catalyst temp, Bank 2 Sensor 1
7E0 0106 Short-term fuel trim, Bank 1
7E0 0107 Long-term fuel trim, Bank 1
7E0 0108 Short-term fuel trim, Bank 2
7E0 0109 Long-term fuel trim, Bank 2
7E0 0114 O2 sensor voltage/trim, Bank 1 Sensor 1
7E0 0118 O2 sensor voltage/trim, Bank 2 Sensor 1
7E0 0143 Absolute load value
7E0 0144 Commanded equivalence ratio
7E0 0145 Relative throttle position
7E0 0147 Throttle position B
7E0 0149 Accelerator pedal position D
7E0 014A Accelerator pedal position E
7E0 014C Commanded throttle actuator
7E0 0101 MIL status / stored DTC count
7E0 03 Stored DTCs (Mode 03, decoded per SAE J2012)

Manufacturer UDS (ISO 14229 Service 0x22 ReadDataByIdentifier)

BMW/Voge-specific DIDs, reverse-engineered by header/DID sweep and cross-checked against the motorcycle's own dashboard. Not part of any public standard — these are specific to this ECU/DID allocation and may not carry over even to other BMW F900-platform bikes.

Header DID Signal Notes
7E1 222B05 Front brake pressure value scaling not fully calibrated — treat as relative, not absolute bar
7E1 222B06 Rear brake pressure same caveat as front
7E1 22D10D Lean angle (from bike's own IMU) Alternative to phone-sensor lean; source is selectable in the Panel

❌ Not working

  • 2243F7 (Gear, header 7E0) and 222503 (ECU odometer, header 7E0) — both listed as confirmed in an earlier pass of this doc, but live retesting on 2026-08-09 shows both consistently returning a negative response (7F 22 31, "requestOutOfRange") on the current test vehicle, including with a UDS Extended Diagnostic Session actively granted (50 03) — see the 43FE/43FF entry below, whose "needs an extended session" hypothesis this same test disproved. Moved here rather than left in the confirmed table above; root cause (ECU/calibration difference from whenever these were first confirmed, or a session/security-access requirement this app doesn't implement) is still open.
  • 43FE / 43FF — return negative responses (7F 22 31) in the Default Diagnostic Session. Suspected to require a UDS Extended Diagnostic Session (10 03) first — retested 2026-08-09 with the session actually granted (100350 03 00 32 01 F4), and both DIDs still failed the same way. The extended-session probe in Bike Info (engine-off only, gated) still exists since opening the session isn't a pure read, but it's now a known dead end for these two specifically.
  • Lean angle broadcast on the raw CAN bus22D10D above answers on request, but there's reason to believe the IMU also broadcasts lean angle passively on the bus without being asked. The app's raw CAN monitor (Bike Info) exists to capture and manually correlate this against known bike tilt, for anyone who wants to find the broadcasting CAN ID.
  • Gear signal on the raw CAN bus — a 1-2-N-1 shift test against a passive CAN capture (2026-08-09) found no CAN ID with a clean 3-transition pattern matching the three shifts; the earlier 12B lead from a prior session's stall-event capture didn't repeat here either. Still unconfirmed.

How this list was built

Combination of: SAE J1979 standard PID scanning (sweepStandardPidSupport() in the app), manual UDS DID sweeps across the two confirmed-responsive headers (7E0, 7E1), and cross-referencing another OBD app's raw sensor dumps against real dashboard readings taken at the same time. PIDs that returned data but couldn't be correlated to a real, verifiable value on the bike are deliberately left out of this list rather than included as a guess.

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