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# W3C Solid Community Group: Weekly

* Date: 2026-03-18T14:00:00Z
* Call: https://meet.jit.si/solid-cg
* Repository: https://github.com/solid/specification

## Chair

* Theo @thhck

## Present

* [elf Pavlik](https://elf-pavlik.hackers4peace.net)
* Alain Bourgeois
* [Roberto S.K Breitman] (The ODI)
* [Luke Dary](https://w3c.social/@lukedary)
* [Precious Oritsedere](precious.oritsedere@theodi.org)
* [Michal](https://id.mrkvon.org)
* Jesse Wright
* Theo @thhck
* Marc Haddle
* Rui Zhao
* [Ted Thibodeau Jr](https://www.linkedin.com/in/macted/) (he/him) (OpenLinkSw.com) // GitHub:[@TallTed](https://github.com/TallTed) // Mastodon:[@TallTed](https://mastodon.social/@TallTed)


## Regrets

* Christoph

---

## Scribe

* Luke

### Meeting Guidelines

* [W3C Solid Community Group Calendar](https://www.w3.org/groups/cg/solid/calendar).
* [W3C Solid Community Group Meeting Guidelines](https://github.com/w3c-cg/solid/blob/main/meetings/README.md).
* No audio or video recording, or automated transcripts without consent. Meetings are transcribed and made public. If consent is withheld by anyone, recording/retention must not occur.
* Join queue to talk.
* Topics can be proposed at the bottom of the agenda to be discussed as time allows. Make it known if a topic is urgent or cannot be postponed.

### Participation and Code of Conduct
* [Join the W3C Solid Community Group](https://www.w3.org/community/solid/join), [W3C Account Request](http://www.w3.org/accounts/request), [W3C Community Contributor License Agreement](https://www.w3.org/community/about/agreements/cla/)
* [Solid Code of Conduct](https://github.com/solid/process/blob/main/code-of-conduct.md), [Positive Work Environment at W3C: Code of Conduct](https://www.w3.org/policies/code-of-conduct/)
* Operating principle for effective participation is to allow access across disabilities, across country borders, and across time. Feedback on tooling and meeting timing is welcome.
* If this is your first time, welcome! Please introduce yourself.

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## Introductions

* None needed

## Announcements


### ODI grant for test suite ( move to next week )
https://www.w3.org/2026/03/09-lws-minutes.html#a338
https://github.com/w3c/lws-protocol/issues/102

* JW: There is a grant from NLNet
* JW: That has been granted to ODI for a test suite.
* JW: That will be worked on.
* JW: Moved to next week
* JW: Samu will work on https://nlnet.nl/project/LinkedWebStorage-testsuite/
* JW: 1 of 8 grants that ODI submitted; first time grant recipients only allowed to accept a single grant
* JW: Will also include work on reference implementation of LWS
* JW: Discussion about the scope of the work ( should also include update on solid test suite )

## Topics


### Action review

- Deferred: ( report next week, CB not here..)
- WAC PR - Add Support for Client Identification and Issuer Identification
- WebID or WebID-Profile

### CG meeting during Solid Week on 29th April
https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/9d3965a2-f4a0-4346-8ca6-8eadee10051c/20260429T140000/

* eP: I propose to cancel this CG meeting and focus on Solid Week
* Objections: none raised

### WAC PR - Add Support for Client Identification and Issuer Identification

https://github.com/solid/web-access-control-spec/pull/133

* eP: if Solid 26 includes WAC there will not be even basic App AuthZ unless this PR lands
* eP: .. reporting to next week
* Alignment on spec is slowly emerging, but no implementation
* Rui: aware of the PR, but hasn't read it, when should this have consensus?
* eP: no deadline, but for Solid 26 there would be urgency
* jeswr: Solid 26 suggestion to create spreadsheet with server implementers and applications and WAC/ACP compatibility
* ..: message to CG about spreadsheet and that survey will help determine Solid 26, survey due next Friday: 27 March
* eP: would be nice to have tests for both to be able to validate (currently no ACP test suite)
* Rui: recalls a proposal about adding group access control into WAC
* eP: https://github.com/w3c/lws-protocol/pull/31


### 2026 CG Roadmap (15+ min)

* CB: https://github.com/w3c-cg/solid/issues/54
* CB: any updates?
* eP: suggest skip due to upcoming Solid Symposium ( let's talk about it after Symposium )


### Solid 2026 best practice documents

* eP: we may want to review list of drafts and people compiled in January https://github.com/solid/specification/blob/main/meetings/2026-01-28.md#2026-odi-roadmap
* eP: a list of item we can contribute, most of them assigned to ODI, wanted to check progress
* JW: want to share and get feedback/PR
* JW: my current draft on the Solid 2026 document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1da2J-NsU3K-4kWEFOvhzIdrvy_KftewXdlxfu401kY0/edit?tab=t.0
* JW: Walking through document
* FedID in Solid
* ODRL in Solid (requires changes to servers)
* eP: [PR to WAC](https://github.com/solid/web-access-control-spec/pull/133) convo drifted into Link Header topic as well
* RZ: significant server changes in handling ODRL
* eP: policy connected to access grants
* RZ: need to specify _who_ the policy is for
* JW: currently writing LWS Access Grants/Request using ODRL to have sufficient coverage
* eP: interest in LWS plans
* JW: LWS isn't defining a single, or any, access control language; most applications won't/shouldn't be managing access controls; most just need a consistent language to communicate access grants/requests
* JW: proposed "profiles", WAC/ACP statements, AC said, "No", ODRL was suggested and adopted for LWS Access Request/Grants proposal
* RZ: has question about using ODRL as the Access Request; ODRL is also working on Access Requests;
* https://github.com/w3c/odrl/issues/118
* https://github.com/w3c/odrl/pull/130
* RZ: (chat) Clarification: by "not using ODRL", I meant not using ODRL as is (i.e. ODRL 2.2 Core Vocabulary); these discussions are aimed at improving situations (esp. for a unified reasoner), and may be eventually considered part of a new ODRL version -- but until then, it's not official ODRL spec.


#### WebID or WebID-Profile

* eP: WebID-Profile isn't part of Solid Protocol 0.11. Does anyone know how much of it was implemented, and where?
* eP: AFAIK nothing implements, for example, 'protected triples' https://solid.github.io/webid-profile/#protected-properties
* eP: It seems to require WebID-Profile to be hosted on Solid Server while many WebIDs are hosted outside (for good reasons) https://solid.github.io/webid-profile/#Server
* eP: issues with profile, should use very minimal webid-spec
* JW: going to draft a much more minimal spec (OIDC issuer, PIM storage)
* eP: questions whether PIM storage should be required
* JW: Solid storage discoverable by PIM storage
* Michal: Others, who are not here, may have input they want to give on this

### Solid 2026 WebID discussion ( next week )

* eP: webId , extended profile, CID


## Actions
- Theo: tell peolpe about the canceled meeting
- Theo: set meeting to discuss IA scribing
- JW: list of Solid Servers on a spreadsheet to see who implements WAC vs ACP
- JW: will try to draft a on Solid-WebID and .. by next week so people have time to review


## Decisions

- Cancel CG meeting during Solid Week on 29th April