Towny Costs

[MrSnipeHard]

I will bring up three separate points that are up for independent discussion and modification.

After a brief week or so, we have already seen 12* nations and countless towns sprout up across the map. This has been a great starting point for the establishment of the new map. However, moving forward, the current rates are so low that towns will litter the map, and players are not incentived to remain in a town as a member. Why stay in someone else’s town when one could easily vote for 3 days, mine 2 gold ingots, and found one’s own town? The current rate of 32g should be bumped up to no less than 64g, in my opinion.

To bring back up a controversial but necessary burden, town upkeep should be in place. There should be at least a 1g upkeep for all towns regardless of size. It would encourage individuals to be active at least once every 10 days in order to vote and deposit the free gold. Individuals who are inactive could also go ham mining one day and be inactive for a whole month even with town upkeep. Town upkeep requires people to be dedicated and prepared. Why are these bad traits? Shouldn’t we expect these from our town leaders, and, maybe if they cannot keep up with a small 1g upkeep, they shouldn’t be a town leader.

On that same note, nations have unexpectedly quickly popped up after less than one week of full release. Perhaps, this indicates that the nation founding cost of 512g is too low and should be bumped up to a harder to obtain sum of 1000g. After all, nation construction should be a community operation not a solo act.

All of these points and possible changes comes at odds against the notion of fairness. A solution to this issue would be presenting the current costs as a “Release Special” in order to gather a reasonable presence of towns and nations on the map. An announcement by the server administration could be posted one week ahead of the changes to inform players that these special costs are coming to an end and that the Towny prices will be bumped up to the normal rate.

[FixTheAdmin]

I agree, thank you for the detailed post

[AidanMSad]

I agree fully, It should be bumped up to 1024 G for nation
and `128 G for town, due to to the crazy amount of towns already.

All this does is slow down people who have found it hard to find gold. I think that how rare gold is is a deterant on its' own. I know that me and my nation have worked hard since the first day of Beta and don't have anywhere near enough gold for a nation. This makes nations in more remote areas really fucking hard and may make the server stupidly grinding based and no longer enjoyable for many members of the playerbase. I can see the point on increasing town costs but I think pick between increased town costs, I'd say 64g max or adding a small upkeep based in Nuggets. I'd much prefer having a nation upkeep to changing any prices as that means the community has to make sure their nation stays around and not fall inactive after the grind. I'd say 3g/day max for that. Outside of that I believe that it is a horrific idea.

The current price also encourages people to build up communities of loyal players to follow a cause without just spamming invites to every new player.

[CorgiPaws]

64 gold for a town is plenty. The nation one, sheesh that is a lot of gold, you’d have to be a large community to get something like that going. Good point on the towns though, and upkeep is a bit iffy, as some people may actually have to go inactive for 10 days or more suddenly or not suddenly. If people want less towns how about set a certain amount of time during the 40 day innacticity period that people have to be in for so that there is less of the rejoin and leave crap with players who are inncactive and just want to keep their towns standing.

64 gold for a town is plenty. The nation one, sheesh that is a lot of gold, you’d have to be a large community to get something like that going. Good point on the towns though, and upkeep is a bit iffy, as some people may actually have to go inactive for 10 days or more suddenly or not suddenly. If people want less towns how about set a certain amount of time during the 40 day innacticity period that people have to be in for so that there is less of the rejoin and leave crap with players who are inncactive and just want to keep their towns standing.

I agree, Classic had its' own ways to controlling towns and how many there are and this map is much bigger so it really shouldn't be an issue rn.

[ProvingUnique]

Honestly from a perspective that isn’t about spending as little as possible, my town hustled yesterday to raise plenty of gold to fund the nation. I would say we generated 300 in 3 hours from mining.

I don’t see why the prices shouldn’t be inflated.

Towns-128
Nations-2k
Plot expansion 32

It’s not unrealistic. It can be done. So why not?

Honestly from a perspective that isn’t about spending as little as possible, my town hustled yesterday to raise plenty of gold to fund the nation. I would say we generated 300 in 3 hours from mining.

I don’t see why the prices shouldn’t be inflated.

Towns-128
Nations-2k
Plot expansion 32

It’s not unrealistic. It can be done. So why not?

Small communities of players and a clear struggle for gold right now. That's why I think it's too unrealistic. Also, 2000g is over 3 stacks of gold blocks. That really isn't that realistic for anyone but the more hardcore players.

I think that raising town prices to keep people in a town is a pathetic way of trying to keep people in your town when you spam invites too every new player. If you want a large town, work hard and build people's trust. Don't increase the prices for such a petty thing. It just gives older players on tn an advantage over the new ones as they had to pay about 4x Less gold then their predecessors. And claim trading would become very costly if claim pricing was increased.

[ProvingUnique]

@BowShot118 I don't think raising prices of a means to keep players locked down in places.

and its very doable to get that much gold with as little as 4 players

Someone tell me that Proving. I've mined way to much for the amount I've gained.
And I wont be the only one I can promise you that.

After a brief week or so, we have already seen 12* nations and countless towns sprout up across the map. This has been a great starting point for the establishment of the new map. However, moving forward, the current rates are so low that towns will litter the map, and players are not incentived to remain in a town as a member. Why stay in someone else’s town when one could easily vote for 3 days, mine 2 gold ingots, and found one’s own town? The current rate of 32g should be bumped up to no less than 64g, in my opinion.
@ProvingUnique

[FutureLemon]

2K for a nation is just simply overpriced for a nation sure a couple of mods can get it easely, but you are moderators and not regular players that only play 1hour a day. Many people just dont have the time or people to accomplish stuff like this. I think nation's shouldn't be above 1024gold and town's shouldn't be above 64gold and claims are good.

[MrSnipeHard]

I agree with what FutureLemon has stated. 64g for founding towns, 1024g for founding nations, and no increase in the current 16g to expand towns. These sound like reasonable figures to have as the normal rate.

I would, however, like to have players post their thoughts about a town upkeep.

I'd accept a max of 64g for a town is no upkeep was added. Nations don't hold buildings for value, people's work whereas towns do. Sticking with the inactivity kicker would be the best option imo. Also, if Nation upkeep was removed I'd put up with a nation price of around 700g.