Stop typing WHO at a game that already published its count, and read the rosters they publish - #163
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WalkthroughThe probe now uses MSSP and connect-screen counts to suppress redundant ChangesPublished player count handling
Estimated code review effort: 4 (Complex) | ~45 minutes Merge Risk: 🟡 Moderate · up to The PR suppresses unnecessary WHO queries and adds MSSP roster/count handling, but a mixed current-and-historical count line can still be discarded, causing an unnecessary query, and the new database validation may block presence writes during deployment. Merge should wait for these bounded correctness and deployment risks to be fixed or explicitly accepted. Sequence Diagram(s)sequenceDiagram
participant TelnetProbe
participant TelnetServer
participant MsspPresence
participant ConnectScreen
participant WHO
TelnetProbe->>TelnetServer: negotiate MSSP
TelnetServer-->>TelnetProbe: publish player count or roster
TelnetProbe->>MsspPresence: parse MSSP report
MsspPresence-->>TelnetProbe: return count when available
TelnetProbe->>ConnectScreen: parse banner when protocol evidence exists
ConnectScreen-->>TelnetProbe: return banner count
TelnetProbe->>WHO: query only when no supported count exists
TelnetProbe-->>TelnetProbe: construct presence result
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In `@src/MUI.Crawl/Telnet/TelnetProbe.cs`:
- Around line 446-457: Measure the crawl’s aggregate latency caused by the MSSP
settle wait in the branch guarded by alreadyFlushed and parsedOurNegotiation,
using the MsspSettleGrace and PollInterval behavior in TelnetProbe. Based on the
measurement, narrow or reduce the backstop wait when its impact is unacceptable
while preserving negotiation detection for targets that respond during the grace
period.
- Around line 647-650: Update the BannerPlayerCount flow around BannerCount.Find
and PresenceChoice.From so an MSSP PLAYERS fallback is not labeled as a
banner-sourced value. Preserve separate count provenance by keeping the banner
count distinct from the published/MSSP count, or propagate the corresponding
FieldSource alongside the selected count through ProbeIngestor.
In `@tests/MUI.Crawl.Tests/Telnet/ProbeSessionTests.cs`:
- Around line 701-746: Correct the XML remarks for
AMsspReportStillInFlightIsWaitedForBeforeTheFlush so they no longer claim
coverage of the bounded MSSP settle wait or a report that has not yet been
negotiated. Describe this fixture as covering the path where WILL MSSP is
observed immediately while the MSSP report is delayed, and leave the test
behavior and assertions unchanged.
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In `@migrations/0038_mssp_roster_presence_source.sql`:
- Around line 36-39: Update the presence_sample_source_vocabulary constraint
change on presence_sample to add the CHECK constraint as NOT VALID, and defer
validation to a separate later migration using VALIDATE CONSTRAINT so the
write-active table avoids scanning under the initial exclusive lock.
In `@src/MUI.Crawl/Mssp/MsspPresence.cs`:
- Around line 198-206: Update the Names parsing logic in MsspPresence so a
roster value of "-1" is treated as unavailable rather than added as a player
name. Preserve normal name and role parsing, and ensure Roster can continue to
later roster variables when the sentinel is encountered instead of returning a
one-player roster.
In `@src/MUI.Web/Resources/Messages.resx`:
- Around line 1952-1954: Update about.measures.count.body in
src/MUI.Web/Resources/Messages.resx lines 1952-1954 to explain MSSP
roster-derived counts and distinguish them from PLAYERS totals. Apply the same
correction to about.measures.count.body in
src/MUI.Web/Resources/Messages.zh-Hans.resx lines 1434-1436, preserving the
localized translation.
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| ALTER TABLE presence_sample | ||
| DROP CONSTRAINT presence_sample_source_vocabulary, | ||
| ADD CONSTRAINT presence_sample_source_vocabulary CHECK (source IN ( | ||
| 'who', 'i3', 'mssp', 'info', 'mssp_roster', 'banner')); |
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PostgreSQL current documentation ALTER TABLE ADD CHECK NOT VALID partitioned table lock validation ACCESS EXCLUSIVE ShareUpdateExclusive
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In PostgreSQL, the interaction between ALTER TABLE, constraint validation, and lock levels on partitioned tables is governed by the need to maintain both data integrity and concurrency [1][2]. When you add a CHECK constraint using NOT VALID to a partitioned table (or any table), the initial ALTER TABLE command does not perform a full table scan and can be committed immediately [1][2]. However, adding a constraint still requires an ACCESS EXCLUSIVE lock on the table because it must update multiple system catalogs (such as pg_class and pg_constraint) to ensure that the new constraint definition is consistent for all concurrent sessions [3]. Reducing this lock level to something less restrictive would risk exposing onlookers to inconsistent catalog data [3]. Once the constraint exists as NOT VALID, it does not prevent new rows from violating the rule, but it does allow you to perform the validation scan later using the VALIDATE CONSTRAINT command [1][2]. The VALIDATE CONSTRAINT command is designed to minimize concurrency impact [1][2]. It only needs to verify pre-existing rows, because any new rows inserted or updated after the initial ALTER TABLE command are already required to satisfy the constraint [1][2]. Consequently, the validation step acquires only a SHARE UPDATE EXCLUSIVE lock on the table being altered [1][2]. This lock level allows other concurrent operations such as SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, and DELETE, while preventing concurrent schema changes or other validation operations on the same table [1][2][4]. In summary: 1. ALTER TABLE... ADD CHECK... NOT VALID: Requires an ACCESS EXCLUSIVE lock [3]. 2. ALTER TABLE... VALIDATE CONSTRAINT: Requires a SHARE UPDATE EXCLUSIVE lock [1][2]. This approach allows you to avoid long-held ACCESS EXCLUSIVE locks during the potentially time-consuming process of scanning a large partitioned table to verify existing data [1][2][4].
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- 4: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/17/sql-altertable.html
Defer validation of presence_sample_source_vocabulary.
ADD CONSTRAINT ... CHECK scans existing rows under ACCESS EXCLUSIVE. On the write-active, partitioned presence_sample table, this scan can block inserts. Add the constraint as NOT VALID, then run VALIDATE CONSTRAINT in a later migration so the scan uses a less restrictive lock.
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In `@migrations/0038_mssp_roster_presence_source.sql` around lines 36 - 39, Update
the presence_sample_source_vocabulary constraint change on presence_sample to
add the CHECK constraint as NOT VALID, and defer validation to a separate later
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| foreach (var entry in value.Split(',')) | ||
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| // "Krem:arch" — the role a game annotates a name with is not part of the name, and | ||
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Reject roster -1 sentinels.
Names treats "-1" as a player name. MsspPresence.Roster then returns one player, so TelnetProbe.PublishedCount can skip WHO and PresenceChoice can publish a fictitious mssp_roster count. Treat this sentinel as unavailable rather than as an empty roster, and continue to later roster variables when applicable.
Based on learnings: “Parsers never fabricate.”
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In `@src/MUI.Crawl/Mssp/MsspPresence.cs` around lines 198 - 206, Update the Names
parsing logic in MsspPresence so a roster value of "-1" is treated as
unavailable rather than added as a player name. Preserve normal name and role
parsing, and ensure Roster can continue to later roster variables when the
sentinel is encountered instead of returning a one-player roster.
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| <data name="source.msspRoster" xml:space="preserve"> | ||
| <value>the MSSP roster</value> | ||
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Update the About explanation for MSSP roster counts.
The new source can represent a count derived from an MSSP roster, but about.measures.count.body still says the MSSP path is only PLAYERS. This makes the public explanation incomplete.
src/MUI.Web/Resources/Messages.resx#L1952-L1954: Updateabout.measures.count.bodyto describe roster-derived MSSP counts and distinguish them fromPLAYERStotals.src/MUI.Web/Resources/Messages.zh-Hans.resx#L1434-L1436: Apply the same correction to the localizedabout.measures.count.body.
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In `@src/MUI.Web/Resources/Messages.resx` around lines 1952 - 1954, Update
about.measures.count.body in src/MUI.Web/Resources/Messages.resx lines 1952-1954
to explain MSSP roster-derived counts and distinguish them from PLAYERS totals.
Apply the same correction to about.measures.count.body in
src/MUI.Web/Resources/Messages.zh-Hans.resx lines 1434-1436, preserving the
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In `@src/MUI.Crawl/Who/WhoParser.cs`:
- Around line 140-142: The WhoParser flow should still extract the current
player count when a line also mentions a past figure; avoid rejecting the entire
line via StatesAPastFigure before TrySummary can parse the current clause. Scope
the past-tense filtering to its matching figure or parse the current clause
independently, and add a regression test covering a line such as “There are 2
players currently online, and 6 players have connected today.”
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Keep a current count when the line also contains a past figure.
Line 140 rejects the whole line before TrySummary reads a current count. For example, "There are 2 players currently online, and 6 players have connected today." returns false instead of 2. This can lose the published count and cause an unnecessary WHO.
Associate the past-tense filter with its matching figure, or parse the current clause independently. Add this sentence as a regression test.
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In `@src/MUI.Crawl/Who/WhoParser.cs` around lines 140 - 142, The WhoParser flow
should still extract the current player count when a line also mentions a past
figure; avoid rejecting the entire line via StatesAPastFigure before TrySummary
can parse the current clause. Scope the past-tense filtering to its matching
figure or parse the current clause independently, and add a regression test
covering a line such as “There are 2 players currently online, and 6 players
have connected today.”
An operator found our WHO arriving at their login screen beside an MSSP report already carrying PLAYERS and a connect screen stating the same number. They are right: a question whose answer the server volunteered is not a measurement, it is noise on somebody else's console. TelnetProbe.PublishedCount decides it at the latest moment before the send, so an MSSP report still in flight through the residue flush is counted; a report that arrives later than that degrades to today's behaviour rather than to a wrong one. Not asking must imply publishing. A probe that declined to ask and then had nothing to show would reach PresenceChoice.ReasonFor and write who_not_offered — "the game answers no pre-login WHO" — about a game we never asked, which is rule 5 exactly and a reason the vocabulary deliberately has no member for. Two things hold that invariant: MsspPlayers is the single reader both the probe and PresenceChoice consult, so a value accepted by one cannot be refused by the other; and the banner count that bought the silence is carried into BannerPlayerCount as the fallback for the end-of-session decode. The screen rung additionally requires a protocol signal in the session. For a server that negotiates nothing and publishes no MSSP, a parseable WHO is its only §7.8 evidence of being a game — talking ourselves out of asking on the strength of a number pattern-matched from ASCII art would cost such a game its listing. INFO and VERSION are untouched: they ask something MSSP has not answered, and narrowing them is a separate decision. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
…read Surveyed the 934 catalogued games holding an MSSP report. Three codebase families publish who is online under names MSSP does not define, and the crawler was storing all three verbatim while reading none of them: PLAYERNAMES 1 game one value, comma-separated Circle/Nukefire WHO 9 games repeated, one occurrence per player Dead Souls/LPMud PLAYER INFO 2 games one value, `name:role` entries Rise of Praxis MsspPresence reads all three, plus the stated PLAYERS, and says which kind of answer it got. Two levels, and the gap between them was measured rather than assumed: tdome.nukefire.org:4000 states PLAYERS = 70 and names sixty-nine, identically across three probes minutes apart. A roster leaves out whoever the game does not show, so it is a floor, not a total. That is why the roster gets its own presence source (mssp_roster, migration 0038) rather than more `mssp`. Both arrive in the same report, but one is the game answering the question and the other is us counting a list it published for another purpose; folding them together would relabel a floor as a total and leave a reader no way to tell which they had. Ranked below `info` on 0019's rule — a new rung fills NULL rows and never relabels a published one — which in today's catalogue means it fills none at all. Declared rather than measured, which is where it parts company with `i3`: an I3 who-reply is a list a mud built because we asked, over a socket, now. Three things the live reports settled, each with a test naming the server: - `-1` is a sentinel, not a count. dragonfiremud.com:1999 sends OBJECTS, SKILLS, RACES and INTERMUD as -1 beside a real PLAYERS; it is that codebase's spelling of "I do not know". - An empty roster is a measured zero, not one player. Vithasnir and Xanth Mud both send `WHO = ` beside PLAYERS = 0. Counting the empty occurrence as a name would report one player on every quiet Dead Souls game there is. - Rosters are read by variable name, never by the shape of the value. Nukefire's CLASSES - BASE 1 = Barbarian, Assassin, Slinger, Curist, Samurai, Infiltrator is indistinguishable from a roster and is six classes. The probe consults the same reader, so a game that published who is online is no longer typed at either — which keeps "not asking implies publishing" true through the new rung rather than despite it. Verified live: nukefire, dead-souls.net, riseofpraxis, dragonfiremud and voidmud all now report `who NotAsked`, while lambda.moo.mud.org — no MSSP — is still asked and still counted at 49. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
Parsed all 918 connect screens the catalogue holds as though each were a WHO answer, to answer whether any game publishes its player list on the login screen. Two things came out of it. None does. Zero screens carry a WHO table our parser can walk — the ones that list names (dunemud.net:6789 names its sixteen, moo.opal.org:7878 lists its wizards) state the count in the same breath, and BannerCount already reads it: 31 of the 32 screens carrying a count agree exactly with what WhoParser reads from the same text. There is no count to be gained by parsing a login-screen roster, and every candidate list on those screens is a staff roll (Emperors, Dukes, Barons, Wizards) that reading name columns out of ASCII art would publish as players. The 32nd disagreed, and that is the bug. down.moo.midgard.org:8888 prints 1 players are connected. 1 players have connected over the past twenty-four hours. 0 players have connected over the past twelve hours. and the reader took the last line as a measured zero for a game with somebody in it. Every count pattern matches it: the perfect tense sits in the gap they already allow between the number and the connectivity word, so no pattern can see it. It reached production harmlessly only by luck — BannerCount refuses a screen stating two different counts, so the wrong reading and the right one cancelled out. A screen carrying only the historical line has nothing to conflict with and would have published it. TrySummary now declines a line whose count is in the perfect tense, before any pattern runs. That is the whole test and it is enough: of the ten lines in the catalogue in that tense, only downmoo's two carry a number — the rest are "You have connected to…" and "after you have logged in", which state no count and lose nothing by being refused. English has no present reading of "N players have connected". The window phrase itself is deliberately not the test. Forty-two screens carry one; port-of-dreams prints "There are 2 players currently online, and today's total is 6." and refusing on `today` would throw away the live count standing beside it. A bare past form with no auxiliary is therefore not covered — no server has been seen printing one. AWindowedTotalIsNeverReadAsThePresentCount now asserts downmoo's screen reads 1 rather than refusing: its three lines were never in conflict, two of them were answering a different question. It keeps the half that mattered — the windowed figure alone is still refused — and the conflicting-figures rule keeps its own test. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
CI on windows-latest sent WHO to a fixture whose MSSP report arrived a moment later — against a server on the same machine. The decision was a coin toss on timing and it lost. WILL MSSP lands during the option handshake while the report itself is a second round trip, so a server can have agreed to MSSP and still have its answer in flight when the WHO decision runs. The flush above already waits for exactly this, but only when it also has to decide whether to send a blank line — and for a server that negotiated, that is precisely the case it skips. Nothing was left holding the WHO fork. So the fork now waits too, bounded by MsspSettleGrace and paid only by a game that said it would answer: an empty Supported never enters the loop. Across a real network the gap this closes is wider than on a loopback socket, not narrower. The roster fixture now delays its report by 250ms on purpose, so the wait is part of what the test proves rather than something the test happens not to need. Ran the Crawl suite five times over: 519 passing each time. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
Moral Decay is playdecay.com:3003, and probing it with the old code shows
what the complaint was really about. Reproducibly, on every crawl:
who Unknown — asked, unreadable
info | By what name do you wish to be known? Password: Wrong password.
| Saving pydeer...done.
WHO was typed at their name prompt and taken as a character name. Their
server asked for a password, and INFO went in as the password. We were
generating failed authentication attempts in their logs every two hours —
and the WHO never produced a count. The number we published came from their
MSSP report the whole time.
Silencing WHO left INFO still landing in that prompt. So INFO and VERSION
are now gated the same way: a report that carries a meaningful NAME, a
CODEBASE naming an engine we recognise, and a count has answered all three
login-screen questions, and every consumer of those replies prefers MSSP
when MSSP has it. Against Moral Decay the probe now sends nothing at all and
finishes in 0.8s, down from 7.5s.
The engine clause is not belt-and-braces; it was measured over the whole
catalogue. Gating on a non-template CODEBASE alone silences 170 games and
costs 33 of them the banner-sourced CODEBASE row INFO had been filling.
Thirty-one merely restated the report. Two did not, and they are one shape —
a custom build string naming no engine. northern-crossroads-ncmud declares
NC-7.0.357.7940b961 and only its INFO says DikuMUD; primal-darkness-ii
declares PD/NM III and only its INFO says FluffOS. Requiring the report to
name an engine keeps exactly those being asked. FAMILY is refused in
CODEBASE's place because both of them declare one.
With the clause in, 72 of the 170 keep their INFO and VERSION and not one
row given up loses an engine: six restate the report in coarser words, five
are mangled readings of an Evennia INFO block (`enniaA 5.0.1`) that the
report states cleanly, and one — neonmoo — keeps its engine and gives up
some patch detail.
Verified live: playdecay.com:3003 sends nothing; mud.primaldarkness.com:5000
and game.convergencemush.org:10000 are still asked exactly as before.
One reader now answers "which repeat wins" for all three callers
(MsspReport.Last), because the engine check deliberately reads every value
of CODEBASE — Moral Decay sends it twice, FluffOS v2025 then Moral Decay
v9.0, and taking only the latest word would go on typing at the login screen
of the game that asked us to stop.
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Nine games in the catalogue answer "Dead Souls 3.9" / "3.8.2" / "3.7a7" when asked what they run, and every one of them read as naming no engine at all. That was visible as a gap in the INFO/VERSION gate — those games kept being typed at because their report appeared not to identify an engine — but the gap is in the vocabulary, not in the gate, so it is fixed where the vocabulary lives. A mudlib rather than a driver, and named for the same reason the drivers are: it is the answer those servers give. FamilyWord.Names matches a two-word marker on word boundaries, so this does not also fire on a game that merely mentions the dead. Deliberately not added to MsspDefaults.CodebaseNames, which erases a NAME that only restates a codebase. That list is for names nobody would call a game, and "Dead Souls" is a perfectly plausible title — the file says so of Last Outpost, Luminari and GodWars for the same reason. dead-souls.net:8000 now answers everything in its report and is asked nothing: 0.8s, no WHO, no INFO, no VERSION. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
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An operator — Moral Decay,
playdecay.com:3003— reported that ourWHOarrives at their login screen while they already publish player counts over MSSP and on that screen. Probing them with the code onmainshows the complaint was understated. Reproducibly, on every crawl:WHOwas typed at their name prompt and taken as a character name. Their server asked for a password, andINFOwent in as the password. We were generating a failed authentication attempt in their logs every two hours — and thatWHOnever produced a count. The number we published came from their MSSP report the whole time.After this PR, against the same server: nothing goes on the wire at all, and the probe finishes in 0.8s instead of 7.5s.
1. A probe that has been told the answer does not ask the question
Three commands were unconditional. All three are now gated on what the game has already published.
WHOis skipped when a count is already in hand — a stated MSSPPLAYERS, a roster the report published, or a count the connect screen states about itself (the screen rung additionally requires a protocol signal in the session; see §3).INFOandVERSIONare skipped whenMsspSelfDescription.AnswersTheLoginCommandsholds: a meaningfulNAME, aCODEBASEthat names an engineLoginCommandReadingrecognises, and a count. One condition per consumer —MeaningfulName,MeaningfulCodebase,ConnectedPlayers— so nothing downstream loses an input it had.MuLikeness's vocabulary signal needs nothing: it is the weakest tier, and a report already outranks it.Not asking must imply publishing
A probe that declined to ask and then had nothing to show would reach
PresenceChoice.ReasonForand writewho_not_offered— "the game answers no pre-login WHO" — about a game we never asked. That is rule 5, and the reason vocabulary has no member for our own restraint on purpose (seeUnmeasurableReason.I3NoReply, which says so). Two things hold it:MsspPresenceis the single reader both the probe andPresenceChoiceconsult, so a count accepted by one cannot be refused by the other.BannerPlayerCountas the fallback for the end-of-session decode.Waiting for a report we have already been promised
WILL MSSPlands during the option handshake while the report itself is a second round trip, so a server can have agreed to MSSP and still have its answer in flight when the decision runs. The residue flush already waits for exactly this — but only when it also has to decide whether to send a blank line, which for a server that negotiated is precisely the case it skips. Nothing was holding theWHOfork, so the decision was a coin toss on timing, and it lost: CI on windows-latest sentWHOto a fixture whose report arrived a moment later, against a server on the same machine. Across a real network the gap is wider.The fork now waits too, bounded by
MsspSettleGrace, paid only by a game that said it would answer. The roster fixture delays its report by 250 ms on purpose so the wait is part of what the test proves.2. Reading the rosters games publish
Surveyed the 934 catalogued games holding an MSSP report. Three codebase families publish who is online under names MSSP does not define, and the crawler was storing all three verbatim while reading none:
PLAYERNAMESWHOPLAYER INFOname:roleentriesMsspPresencereads all three plus the statedPLAYERS, and reports which kind of answer it got.MsspCountKindis the confidence ladder for the MSSP channel — the counterpart toWhoConfidencefor the telnet one. No separate confidence type: that would be a second name for one fact.Stated— the game's own answer to the exact question. Exact.Roster— a list the game published, counted by us. A floor, not a total. Measured:tdome.nukefire.org:4000statesPLAYERS = 70and names sixty-nine, identically across three probes minutes apart. Every codebase has someone it does not show.None— answered neither way.Three things the live reports settled, each with a test naming the server:
-1is a sentinel, not a count.dragonfiremud.com:1999sendsOBJECTS = -1,SKILLS = -1,RACES = -1,INTERMUD = -1beside a realPLAYERS. That codebase's spelling of "I do not know"; publishing it would invent a number (rule 4).WHO =empty is a measured zero, not one player.vithasnirandxanth-mudboth send it besidePLAYERS = 0. Counting the empty occurrence as a name would report one player on every quiet Dead Souls game in the catalogue.CLASSES - BASE 1 = Barbarian, Assassin, Slinger, Curist, Samurai, Infiltratoris indistinguishable from a roster and is six classes.Where a roster count goes (migration 0038)
Its own
mssp_rosterpresence source, not moremssp. Both arrive in the same report, butPLAYERSis the game answering the question while a roster is us counting a list published for another purpose — folding them together would relabel a floor as a total with no way for a reader to tell which they had.Ranked below
info, abovebanner, on the rule migration 0019 set: a new rung may only fill rows that would otherwise be NULL and may never relabel a published count. In today's catalogue that makes it empty — every roster-publishing game also statesPLAYERSor is counted over I3 — and that is the point. It exists so the probe has somewhere honest to put an answer it stopped asking for.Declared, not measured, which is where it parts company with
i3: an I3who-replyis a list a mud built because we asked, over a socket, now. An MSSP roster arrived unsolicited inside the game's own self-description.3. The two clauses that keep this from costing anything
Both were derived from the catalogue, not from caution.
The screen rung needs a protocol signal. For a server that negotiates nothing and publishes no MSSP, a parseable
WHOis its only §7.8MuLikenessevidence of being a game — which is what lists a submitted game without waiting on a claim. Talking ourselves out of asking on the strength of a number pattern-matched out of ASCII art would cost such a game its listing.The
INFO/VERSIONgate needs the report to name an engine. Gating on a non-templateCODEBASEalone silences 170 games and costs 33 of them thebanner-sourcedCODEBASErowINFOhad been filling. Thirty-one merely restated the report. Two did not, and they are one shape — a custom build string naming no engine:northern-crossroads-ncmuddeclaresNC-7.0.357.7940b961; only itsINFOsaysDikuMUDprimal-darkness-iideclaresPD/NM III; only itsINFOsaysFluffOSRequiring the report to name an engine keeps exactly those being asked.
FAMILYis refused inCODEBASE's place because both of them declare one — accepting it would silence the two games the clause exists to protect.With the clause in, 72 of the 170 keep their
INFO/VERSION, and not one row given up loses an engine: six restate the report in coarser words, five are Evennia games, and one —neonmoo— keeps its engine and gives up patch detail.The engine check reads every value of
CODEBASE, not the last: Moral Decay sends it twice,FluffOS v2025thenMoral Decay v9.0, and taking only the latest word — right everywhere else — would find no engine and go on typing at the login screen of the game that asked us to stop. One reader now answers "which repeat wins" for all three callers (MsspReport.Last).4. Login-screen player lists, and a parser bug found looking for them
Asked whether games publish a connected-player list on the connect screen. Ran every stored screen (918) through
WhoParserandBannerCount.No game does — zero parse as
PerPlayer. The games that list names always state the count in the same breath and we already read it (dunemud.net:6789printsThere are currently 16 users logged on:above its sixteen names). Across the 32 screens carrying a count, the two readers agree on the number 31 times. And the lists that are there are the reason not to try:duneshowsEmperors:,Dukes:,Barons:rolls;opalmooshowsWizards: Briar, Opal, Min, Fox, and Lyn.The 32nd disagreed, and that was a bug.
down.moo.midgard.org:8888prints:The reader took the last line as a measured zero for a game with somebody in it. Every count pattern matches it — the perfect tense sits in the gap they already allow between the number and the connectivity word, so no pattern can see it. It reached production harmlessly only by luck:
BannerCountrefuses a screen stating two different counts, so the wrong reading and the right one cancelled out. A screen carrying only the historical line would have published it.TrySummarynow declines a count in the perfect tense before any pattern runs. Of the ten lines in the catalogue in that tense, only downmoo's two carry a number — the rest areYou have connected to…andafter you have logged in. English has no present reading of "N players have connected."The window phrase is deliberately not the test: 42 screens carry one, and
port-of-dreamsprintsThere are 2 players currently online, and today's total is 6.Verification
Unit and integration. Crawl 544, Catalog 641, Crawler 338, Discovery 335, Web 1,153 — all green.
PresenceStorePostgresTests.EverySourceTheLadderCanChooseIsOneTheTableAcceptsgainsmssp_roster, so migration 0038 is proven against a real Postgres rather than assumed. The Crawl suite was run five times over after the timing fix; 544 each time.Live, with
mui-probe.playdecay.com:3003sends nothing.tdome.nukefire.org:4000,dead-souls.net:8000,telnet.riseofpraxis.net:6666,dragonfiremud.com:1999,voidmud.com:2201reportwho NotAsked.mud.primaldarkness.com:5000andgame.convergencemush.org:10000(RhostMUSH, no MSSP — the game theINFOreader exists for) are asked exactly as before.lambda.moo.mud.org:8888— no MSSP, negotiates nothing — is still asked and still counted, at 49.Full crawl against a production copy. Restored a 103 MB
pg_dumpof prod (935 games, 1,567 targets, 118,380 presence rows) into a local Postgres, snapshotted a baseline, made every target due, and swept all 1,567. Then a second targeted sweep of 336 targets / 282 games for theINFO/VERSIONgate. Migration 0038 applied cleanly to real data on both restores.WHOreason recorded while we declined to ask. The one game that looked like it (abandoned-realms-2) landedmssp · 2on re-probe — a transient socket loss.coffeemud.netis refusing connections. A further 28 werei3 → none, an artefact of running no--i3pass.who→mssp, and the counts agree: 22 identical, 30 within 3, largest gap 6 on a 597-player game. That is the direct answer to the main objection against rankingmsspoverwho.INFO/VERSIONgate: 0 rows lost. Fourbanner-sourcedCODEBASEvalues became coarser (PennMUSH 1.8.8p0→PennMUSH) and 41 stopped being re-confirmed — all outranked bymsspinFields.Winner, so no displayed value changes on any of them. 191mssprows keep refreshing normally.Known consequences
PLAYERSrecord presence undermssp(declared) rather thanwho(observed) — measured at 34 games, with the counts agreeing.field_changerecords per source rather than per winner, so those four coarsenedCODEBASEvalues each produce one feed entry. Accurate — we did change what we read off the screen — but visible.WHOfor its screen count.flexiblesurvival.com:2222negotiates MSSP but sends no report, states51 players on right now., and had aWHOanswering atPerPlayerconfidence. Under the screen rung it is no longer asked. Both sources are classed measured and no aggregates are lost (zero games in the catalogue carry presence aggregates today), but it is the one place this rule costs something. Restricting suppression to MSSP alone would undo it.Flagged, not fixed
CODEBASEparsed from theirINFOblock — theEvis eaten (enniaA 5.0.1,enniaF 6.0.0 (rev ea0da3ed8)R ##D HRINFO0m). This PR happens to stop it for those five; the parser bug remains for any Evennia game without a self-describing report.Dead Soulsis not inLoginCommandReading's family vocabulary, so its nine games keep theirINFOandVERSION. That is the gate behaving correctly, but widening that list changes how every codebase is read, so it belongs in its own change if it belongs at all.🤖 Generated with Claude Code