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Added banner to support Ukraine!

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I'm Alex, and I'm software engineer from Ukraine. Right now, my peaceful country attacked by neighborhood, without reason. It's really hard to understand from news, what's actually happening here

https://twitter.com/ua_parliament/status/1498266783173824517?t=XgTAeDu5-VH60dYs46m9fg&s=19

Our brave Ukrainian army show their strength, and fighting with one of the biggest army in the world on the same level and better. But Putin side is attacking civilians from the sky. It's violence that not acceptable by any war conflict, and we should stop it.

I've never asked for help, but I should do it now. I don't like to mix political things with job, but right now, my family should cover in a shelter 3 times a day, because of bombing. We are community, we can do many things. Help with paying attention to closing the sky over Ukraine by NATO, the rest, we can do ourselves.

We did support for BLM, and won, right now Ukraine need your help.

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I haven't had a chance to fully review this from a technical standpoint but fully support the message.

In the future, we may want to abstract out any sort of additional messaging with more abstract CSS classes and such.

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alexandrtovmach commented Feb 28, 2022

haven't enought time to do CSS updates, but yeah we can do that

UPD: done

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ronag commented Feb 28, 2022

#CloseTheSky is controversial IMO. Can we use a different message? #SupportUkraine or something?

"saveukraine": {
"visible": true,
"text": "#CloseTheSky over #Ukraine",
"link": "https://twitter.com/ua_parliament/status/1498266783173824517"
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Given that it is possible (and more common) for individual tweets to be deleted, This link should likely go to the profile instead (https://twitter.com/ua_parliament).

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I believe this tweet can show what situation it is, and what kind of help we need. Adding just a link to profile will be boring and useful for anyone.

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Hey is there anything more concrete Node.js can do to help? This sort of initiative can end up being performative.

If there are any areas where project members can contribute I would much rather we do that as a project instead of put another banner up. I'm personally disappointed with the commitments the project made with the BlackLivesMatter banner and then failed to meet. I think that initiative was full of good intent but I don't think we delivered on those commitments.

What about any of the following instead to show support:

  • Doing virtual code+learn events for Ukranians
  • Doing "ask a developer" sessions for local communities or panels
  • Helping local nonprofits with technical issues during the crisis
  • Helping people stuck in war zones with logistical issues (writing to consulates of your nationality asking for help etc)
  • Doing a fundraiser workshop (where proceeds go to a relief organization like the Ukranian red cross)

If any of those make sense to you I think it would be good for the TSC to discuss this and send out a "call for volunteers" to all Node.js org members. I think this can also go alongside a blog-post explaining what Node.js is doing.

I would also strongly prefer the focus here on helping Ukranians stuck in this situation and not the war itself. Node.js has a diverse and multinational contributor base and I would not want to alienate members based on picking a side in a conflict most of us are pretty ignorant of.

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jasnell commented Feb 28, 2022

Overall, I'm definitely +1 on this. Like @ronag, I'd prefer something like #SupportUkraine.

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Also @alexandrtovmach stay strong and stay safe. I'm really sorry you have to go through this. I've spent time in bomb shelters before and it really sucks. I hope the conflict ends soon and your life goes back to normalcy. If there is any logistics I can help you with or you just wanna talk please reach out (benjamingr@gmail.com).

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@ronag @jasnell Changed message to #SupportUkraine

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alexandrtovmach commented Feb 28, 2022

@benjamingr For sure, community can help with:

Helping local nonprofits with technical issues during the crisis
Helping people stuck in war zones with logistical issues (writing to consulates of your nationality asking for help etc)
Doing a fundraiser workshop (where proceeds go to a relief organization like the Ukranian red cross)

But I'm not sure how open source community can do that.
I'm also not asking to do anything with war, and only want to pay attention to the problem over the world, and push politics to resolve it by stoping violence. It's possible to do only in diplomatic way

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For sure, community can help with:

I think a good next step to make that happen is to tag that issue with tsc-agenda and ask them to send a call for volunteers. If you know any local tech communities in your area you can contact them and see if you can reach non-profits working on relief.

As for a fundraiser workshop that's something the TSC would have to organize. I think "Node.js commits NNNNN$ to support Ukraine war relief" is a much more powerful message than just a hashtag on the homepage.

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alexandrtovmach commented Feb 28, 2022

I've added tag, but I can't guarantee that I'll join the call with TSC, because of unstable situation. So for now, for the first step publishing hashtag to the website will be good.

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@benjamingr @ronag @jasnell would you approve?

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lgtm

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alexandrtovmach commented Feb 28, 2022

I'd like to have at least 2 approves from @nodejs/tsc members before merge it. Thanks everyone

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LGTM with no strong opinion about the exact link, and not sure about the exact subset of locales.

I agree with @benjamingr that actionable steps would be extremely valuable.

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Thanks for approve
Merging

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If we'll think that link is not works, we can fix it easily

@alexandrtovmach alexandrtovmach merged commit 57bffb8 into nodejs:main Feb 28, 2022
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Trott commented Feb 28, 2022

No need to block on this comment, but it might be good to link (instead of to a Twitter account) to a relief organization that people can donate to in order to help Ukrainian refugees fleeing to neighboring countries. Then at least we're reminding/encouraging people to spend a little money to help out with the humanitarian issues. Perhaps https://donate.unhcr.org/int/en/ukraine-emergency?

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ronag commented Feb 28, 2022

I'm not sure what the rules are on this repo but wouldn't it be appropriate to wait at least 24 hours before we go live with this so that people have a chance to object?

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I strongly agree with @ronag that there should be more eyes on this before this goes live so people have a chance to object.

More over I strongly prefer any of those options #4446 (comment) to the banner after last time.

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ohh, sorry, reverting now for 24 hours

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is there a way to do revert with Github UI?

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This reverts commit 57bffb8.

Co-authored-by: Rich Trott <rtrott@gmail.com>
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Trott commented Feb 28, 2022

I guess we need to re-open this PR somehow or else open a new one?

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