[finding] `verify --rls` cannot reach RLS narrowing authored on a POSITION — one probe persona holds no positions, so position-gated policies never apply to it

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Symptom

After #7685 / PR #7975, objectstack verify --rls reaches the #1994 by-id-write class: its probe persona holds object read+edit plus a verifier-authored owner narrowing, so a refusal is attributable to the record gate and the run is falsifiable (ablating the #7665 write-scope derivation turns 16 of 20 probed showcase objects red).

One class is still out of reach, and it is stated in the module header rather than left to be discovered:

an object whose narrowing is authored on a POSITION the probe does not hold is unnarrowed for this persona

The probe holds no positions by design (it must own nothing, so the admin-created target is outside its scope by construction). An app-authored RLS policy carrying positions: [...] is filtered out by getApplicablePolicies for that persona, so the runner never exercises the app's own narrowing — only the platform gate underneath it.

Why it matters

This is the exact authoring shape of the defect the tooling was fixed for. #7665's persona was the ordinary showcase_contributor — a contributor position plus the matching set — and the showcase's narrowing is authored that way:

// examples/app-showcase/src/security/permission-sets.ts
{ name: 'task_own_rows',    object: 'showcase_task',    operation: 'select', using: 'assignee == current_user.email', positions: ['contributor'] }
{ name: 'invoice_own_rows', object: 'showcase_invoice', operation: 'select', using: 'owner == current_user.email',    positions: ['contributor'] }

Measured during PR #7975, with an object-granted but un-narrowed probe (before the verifier-authored owner policy was added): every such object reported member-visible — the probe read every row, so no cross-owner scenario existed and nothing was proven. The current probe covers the platform half by authoring its own narrowing; the app-authored, position-gated half is still unexercised.

Suggested direction (not prescriptive)

The generalization is app-agnostic and derivable from metadata, which is this tool's whole premise: for each position the app declares, provision a persona holding that position (and its bound sets) and run the same invariant. That reproduces #7665's persona exactly, for every app, without the verifier inventing a policy.

Two things to size before doing it:

• Cost. ~4 HTTP calls × objects × positions. The showcase declares 9 positions and 23 objects; today's whole dogfood-verify job is ~4½ minutes against a 20-minute timeout, so this needs measuring rather than assuming.
• Over-privilege. Some declared positions are bound to VAMA-carrying sets (showcase_auditor, showcase_ops). Those personas see everything and would report member-visible — correct, but it means the fan-out must report per-position coverage honestly rather than claiming N× the reach.

Both are the reason this was not folded into PR #7975: it is a different-shaped change from the probe fix, and shipping it as a rider would have made that PR's before/after measurement unreadable.

Source

Recorded while executing #7685 item (i) (PR #7975), which cross-links it in the runner's module header. Filed unassigned — recording a finding, not claiming it.

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Findings-round promotion: pm:queue (domain:cli kept, type Task) — first grading.

Premise re-verified on origin/main: the limitation is self-declared at packages/verify/src/rls.ts:44 ("POSITION the probe does not hold"), and the shipped example uses exactly that authoring shape — three policies in examples/app-showcase/src/security/permission-sets.ts (:65, :80, :96) carry positions: ['contributor']. The verifier does not exercise the shape that produced the real #7665 defect class.

Dispatch notes: fix is app-agnostic (provision a probe persona per app-declared position, derived from metadata); the CI cost measurement is part of the deliverable — report the persona fan-out cost before/after, don't just land it. Sequencing note: same origin family as #7976 (also promoted) — fine to hand both to one dev in sequence, but they stay separate cards/PRs.

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Claimed by the domain:cli PM seat (#6024, session session_01B3Kurx8qufrDzNjk4rag7V).
Branch: claude/issue-7978-rls-probe-position-personas · dispatch: mode:subagent, model: claude-opus-5.

Filed by #7685's own dev as the limit of what that PR could reach, and stated in rls.ts's module header so the new green would not be over-read. That is why this is a scoped extension rather than a rediscovery: :179 records the persona owns "No create/delete, no positions, no system permissions", and :45 names the consequence — the showcase's positions: ['contributor'] rules are unnarrowed for it.

Ruling

Add per-declared-position probe personas so position-authored narrowing is exercised. Derive the position set from what the app declares, not from a hand-written list — a transcribed list is how #7744 and #7314 came to exist, and it would silently stop covering a position added later.

⛔ The same two rules that made #7685 worth landing

Never tune the probe to preserve a green. If a position persona finds real holes, that is the deliverable working. ⛔ Do not fix the holes here — report them.

A skip must not read as a pass. The probe-blocked status #7685 introduced is the right shape; reuse it rather than inventing a second vocabulary. An app declaring no positions must report "no position personas to run" distinctly — it must not silently contribute to proven.

Pins

• Report the before/after proven / unproven / probeBlocked counts for both example apps, as Cross-cutting (verify/qa coverage): verify --rls cannot reach by-id-write, authz-conformance overclaims 'enforced', and the console permission-matrix editor is read-only by default #7685 did. That table is how a reviewer sees whether coverage actually moved.
• The ablation still bites: re-run the [security] A by-id write is not gated by record visibility — a contributor mutates records they cannot read, when only select-scope RLS is authored #7665 write-scope ablation and confirm the position personas also flip to rls-hole. A persona that cannot detect a known hole is decoration.
• ci.yml's dogfood-verify gates on verify --rls exiting clean for both apps. If your change makes either exit non-zero, that is a blocker to report — ⛔ not something to suppress. Coming back with "it goes red and here is what it found" is a success outcome.

Update the module header: it currently documents this gap as open.

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