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Adjust t1 bomb max speeds. - #5565

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Adjust t1 bomb max speeds.#5565
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@lL1l1 lL1l1 commented Oct 20, 2023

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The Problem

Currently it's possible to boost sera and aeon bomber bomb velocity so they drop 3x faster than normal and make it practically impossible for engis to dodge them, and that is achievable with some sandbox practice using the plane height indicator game setting and groundfiring 1-2.5 units in front of the bomber. It is also a bit too effective to be fair compared to cybran and uef bombers.

Aeon/Sera t1 bomb max speed 40 -> 17

As the main change, this fixes super speedy bomb drops.
I mostly tested sera, because aeon has practically the same weapon but gets stuck randomly.
Approximate drop times in seconds for sera bomber:

type of drop before nerf after nerf
best case 0.5 0.9
good skill 0.6-0.7 1.0-1.1
improving skill 0.8-0.9 1.2
basic skill 1-1.3 1.3
normal hover bombs 1.5-2.0 1.5-2.0
flat ground bombing run ~2.7 ~2.7

Cyb/UEF t1 bomb max speed 25/20 -> 20/25 respectively

As a secondary change, this balances bomber AoE effectiveness vs drop speed.

  • Aeon and Sera are the slowest because of their consistent damage, instant shot, and large splash radius.
  • Cybran and UEF are faster because of their inconsistent damage, 0.2 delay between bombs salvo, and smaller splash radius.
  • Cybran has slightly larger AoE in testing and doesn't rely on damage over time, so I switched UEF and cybran max speeds.
    The AoE tests were done by hover bombing a line of t1 engis: UEF 6-7 direct kills 7-8 with napalm per bomb, cyb 7-8 kills per bomb, sera 8-9 kills per bomb.

The third bomb is the one that can kill engis, and it is affected by +0.4 salvo delay and the automatic attack-run movement of the bomber, so it can reach 0.5-0.8 drop time with these changes.

@Garanas Garanas added the area: balance related to units balance, but not as a suggestion label Oct 22, 2023
@Garanas Garanas added this to the Development iteration IV milestone Oct 22, 2023
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Garanas commented Oct 22, 2023

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I've asked the balance team to check if there are any concerns 😃

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Garanas commented Oct 23, 2023

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No immediate concerns; we'll just give this a try

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Garanas merged commit fbb1704 into FAForever:deploy/fafbeta Oct 23, 2023
Garanas pushed a commit that referenced this pull request Nov 16, 2023
This prevents super speedy bomp drops that are impossible to evade
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lL1l1 deleted the balance/hover-bomb-drop-speed branch December 7, 2023 07:59
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