⏳ 🔗 🐛 [V4] Persistent: Attempting to change Atomic element settings and save the page returns an error (#32632)

[aksellno]

Description

Same issue as #32632.
I am getting it on one of the sites I am working on. And I am using the latest 3.32 stable version of Elementor.

Steps to reproduce

See issue #32632

Expected behavior

Should be able to save any changes at all to the site.

Elementor System Info

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== Server Environment ==
	Operating System: Linux
	Software: Apache
	MySQL version: mariadb.org binary distribution v10.6.23
	PHP Version: 8.4.10
	PHP Memory Limit: 1073741824
	PHP Max Input Vars: 5000
	PHP Max Post Size: 256M
	GD Installed: Yes
	ZIP Installed: Yes
	Write Permissions: All right
	Elementor Library: Connected

== WordPress Environment ==
	Version: 6.8.3
	Site URL: https://ei.demoside.no
	Home URL: https://ei.demoside.no
	WP Multisite: No
	Max Upload Size: 256 MB
	Memory limit: 512M
	Max Memory limit: 512M
	Permalink Structure: /%postname%/
	Language: en_US
	Timezone: Europe/Oslo
	Debug Mode: Active

== Theme ==
	Name: Aksell - Energy Innovation Global
	Version: 1.0
	Author: Eskil Falnes-Malmo and Alf Otto Fagermo
	Child Theme: No

== User ==
	Role: administrator
	WP Profile lang: en-US
	User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/140.0.0.0 Safari/537.36

== Active Plugins ==
	ACF Autosize
		Version: 2.0.15
		Author: Yeah GbR

	Admin and Site Enhancements (ASE) Pro
		Version: 8.0.1
		Author: wpase.com

	Advanced Custom Fields PRO
		Version: 6.5.1
		Author: WP Engine

	EduAdmin Course Import
		Version: 1.8.1
		Author: Aksell, OpenAI

	Elementor
		Version: 3.32.4
		Author: Elementor.com

	Elementor Pro
		Version: 3.32.2
		Author: Elementor.com

	TranslatePress - Developer
		Version: 1.6.5
		Author: Cozmoslabs, Razvan Mocanu, Madalin Ungureanu

	TranslatePress - Multilingual
		Version: 2.10.6
		Author: Cozmoslabs, Razvan Mocanu, Madalin Ungureanu, Cristophor Hurduban

	Variation Swatches for WooCommerce
		Version: 2.2.1
		Author: Emran Ahmed

	View Transitions
		Version: 1.1.1
		Author: WordPress Performance Team

	WooCommerce
		Version: 10.2.2
		Author: Automattic

	WordPress Importer
		Version: 0.9.3
		Author: wordpressdotorg

	WP All Export - ACF Export Add-On Pro
		Version: 1.0.6
		Author: Soflyy

	WP All Export - WooCommerce Export Add-On Pro
		Version: 1.0.10
		Author: Soflyy

	WP All Export Pro
		Version: 1.9.11
		Author: Soflyy

	WP Crontrol
		Version: 1.19.2
		Author: John Blackbourn


== Must-Use Plugins ==
	Elementor Safe Mode
		Version: 1.0.0
		Author: Elementor.com


== Elements Usage ==
	
	footer : 1
		e-button : 2
		e-div-block : 2
		e-divider : 1
		e-flexbox : 7
		e-heading : 1
		e-image : 1
		e-paragraph : 2
		nav-menu : 1
		social-icons : 1
	header : 1
		container : 2
		e-button : 4
		e-div-block : 1
		e-divider : 1
		e-flexbox : 4
		e-image : 2
		icon : 2
		nav-menu : 2
		off-canvas : 1
	product : 1
		e-button : 1
		e-div-block : 4
		e-flexbox : 13
		e-heading : 4
		e-paragraph : 2
		loop-grid : 1
		shortcode : 7
		text-editor : 2
		woocommerce-product-images : 1
		woocommerce-product-price : 1
		woocommerce-product-related : 1
		woocommerce-product-short-description : 1
	wp-post : 0
		counter : 3
		e-button : 5
		e-div-block : 14
		e-flexbox : 15
		e-heading : 3
		e-image : 3
		e-paragraph : 15
		e-svg : 3
		loop-grid : 1
		shortcode : 1
		spacer : 4
	wp-page : 16
		container : 14
		e-button : 11
		e-div-block : 121
		e-flexbox : 70
		e-heading : 77
		e-image : 26
		e-paragraph : 34
		e-svg : 3
		heading : 3
		html : 1
		loop-grid : 13
		nested-accordion : 4
		nested-tabs : 1
		shortcode : 25
		spacer : 12
		table-of-contents : 1
		text-editor : 33
	single-post : 2
		e-div-block : 10
		e-flexbox : 10
		e-heading : 8
		e-paragraph : 3
		loop-grid : 2
		post-info : 1
		shortcode : 6
		spacer : 2
		text-editor : 1
		theme-post-content : 2
		theme-post-excerpt : 1
		theme-post-featured-image : 3
		theme-post-title : 1
	product-archive : 1
		e-button : 1
		e-div-block : 6
		e-flexbox : 3
		e-heading : 2
		e-paragraph : 1
		loop-grid : 1
		shortcode : 3
	loop-item : 7
		container : 15
		e-flexbox : 1
		e-paragraph : 6
		e-svg : 1
		heading : 5
		icon : 1
		icon-list : 1
		image : 3
		post-info : 1
		text-editor : 1
		theme-post-content : 3
		theme-post-excerpt : 1
		theme-post-featured-image : 5
		theme-post-title : 2


== Settings ==
	
	cpt_support: page
	allow_tracking: yes
	unfiltered_files_upload: 1
	font_display: swap


== Features ==
	Custom Fonts: 0
	Custom Icons: 0

== Integrations ==
	
	woocommerce: Active


== Elementor Experiments ==
	Inline Font Icons: Active by default
	Additional Custom Breakpoints: Active by default
	Container: Active
	Optimized Markup: Active by default
	Default to New Theme Builder: Active by default
	Pro Free Trial Popup: Inactive by default
	Nested Elements: Active
	Pages Panel: Inactive by default
	Elementor Home Screen: Active by default
	Atomic Widgets: Active
	V4 Indications Popover: Inactive by default
	Enforce atomic widgets capabilities: Active by default
	V4 Custom CSS: Inactive by default
	Nested Elements: Inactive by default
	Global Classes: Active
	Enforce global classes capabilities: Active by default
	Variables: Active by default
	Variables Manager: Inactive by default
	Cloud Library: Active by default
	Editor v4 (Opt In Page): Active by default
	Editor V4: Active
	Components: Inactive by default
	Import/Export Customization: Active by default
	Elementor Editor Events: Inactive by default
	Menu: Active by default
	Size Variables: Active by default


== Log ==
	
Log: showing 20 of 352025-09-19 12:21:22 [info] Elementor data updater process has been queued. [array (
  'plugin' => 'Elementor',
  'from' => '3.32.1',
  'to' => '3.32.2',
)]
2025-09-19 12:21:23 [info] elementor::elementor_updater Started 
2025-09-19 12:21:23 [info] Elementor/Upgrades - _on_each_version Start  
2025-09-19 12:21:25 [info] Elementor/Upgrades - _on_each_version Finished 
2025-09-19 12:21:25 [info] Elementor data updater process has been completed. [array (
  'plugin' => 'Elementor',
  'from' => '3.32.1',
  'to' => '3.32.2',
)]
2025-09-30 10:03:13 [info] Elementor data updater process has been queued. [array (
  'plugin' => 'Elementor',
  'from' => '3.32.2',
  'to' => '3.32.3',
)]
2025-09-30 10:03:13 [info] elementor::elementor_updater Started 
2025-09-30 10:03:13 [info] Elementor/Upgrades - _on_each_version Start  
2025-09-30 10:03:14 [info] Elementor/Upgrades - _on_each_version Finished 
2025-09-30 10:03:14 [info] Elementor data updater process has been completed. [array (
  'plugin' => 'Elementor',
  'from' => '3.32.2',
  'to' => '3.32.3',
)]
2025-09-30 14:09:47 [info] Elementor data updater process has been queued. [array (
  'plugin' => 'Elementor Pro',
  'from' => '3.32.1',
  'to' => '3.32.2',
)]
2025-09-30 14:09:52 [info] elementor-pro::elementor_pro_updater Started 
2025-09-30 14:09:52 [info] Elementor Pro/Upgrades - _on_each_version Start  
2025-09-30 14:09:52 [info] Elementor Pro/Upgrades - _on_each_version Finished 
2025-09-30 14:09:52 [info] Elementor data updater process has been completed. [array (
  'plugin' => 'Elementor Pro',
  'from' => '3.32.1',
  'to' => '3.32.2',
)]
2025-10-06 09:42:22 [info] elementor::elementor_updater Started 
2025-10-06 09:42:22 [info] Elementor/Upgrades - _on_each_version Start  
2025-10-06 09:42:22 [info] Elementor data updater process has been queued. [array (
  'plugin' => 'Elementor',
  'from' => '3.32.3',
  'to' => '3.32.4',
)]
2025-10-06 09:42:22 [info] Elementor/Upgrades - _on_each_version Finished 
2025-10-06 09:42:22 [info] Elementor data updater process has been completed. [array (
  'plugin' => 'Elementor',
  'from' => '3.32.3',
  'to' => '3.32.4',
)]

JS: showing 1 of 1JS: 2025-09-17 07:50:55 [error X 1][https://ei.demoside.no/wp-content/plugins/elementor/assets/js/editor.min.js?ver=3.32.0:3:523180] Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'isDesignable') 

PHP: showing 6 of 6PHP: 2025-09-26 13:52:00 [notice X 199][/customers/c/2/b/clg501bm7/webroots/w1397623-www/www/wp-content/plugins/elementor-pro/core/database/model-base.php::66] ElementorPro\Core\Database\Model_Base::query(): Implicitly marking parameter $connection as nullable is deprecated, the explicit nullable type must be used instead [array (
  'trace' => '
#0: Elementor\Core\Logger\Manager -> shutdown()
',
)]
PHP: 2025-09-26 14:14:31 [notice X 141][/customers/c/2/b/clg501bm7/webroots/w1397623-www/www/wp-content/plugins/elementor/core/logger/manager.php::249] Constant E_STRICT is deprecated [array (
  'trace' => '
#0: Elementor\Core\Logger\Manager -> shutdown()
',
)]
PHP: 2025-09-26 14:15:38 [notice X 52][/customers/c/2/b/clg501bm7/webroots/w1397623-www/www/wp-content/plugins/elementor-pro/modules/notes/database/models/user.php::96] ElementorPro\Modules\Notes\Database\Models\User::query(): Implicitly marking parameter $connection as nullable is deprecated, the explicit nullable type must be used instead [array (
  'trace' => '
#0: Elementor\Core\Logger\Manager -> shutdown()
',
)]
PHP: 2025-09-28 15:15:22 [notice X 2][/customers/c/2/b/clg501bm7/webroots/w1397623-www/www/wp-content/plugins/elementor-pro/core/database/join-clause.php::37] ElementorPro\Core\Database\Join_Clause::__construct(): Implicitly marking parameter $connection as nullable is deprecated, the explicit nullable type must be used instead [array (
  'trace' => '
#0: Elementor\Core\Logger\Manager -> shutdown()
',
)]
PHP: 2025-10-06 12:44:28 [notice X 16][/customers/c/2/b/clg501bm7/webroots/w1397623-www/www/wp-content/plugins/elementor/includes/base/controls-stack.php::230] hexdec(): Passing null to parameter #1 ($hex_string) of type string is deprecated [array (
  'trace' => '
#0: Elementor\Core\Logger\Manager -> shutdown()
',
)]
PHP: 2025-10-06 14:57:41 [notice X 6][/customers/c/2/b/clg501bm7/webroots/w1397623-www/www/wp-content/plugins/elementor-pro/core/database/query-builder.php::268] ElementorPro\Core\Database\Query_Builder::when(): Implicitly marking parameter $false_callback as nullable is deprecated, the explicit nullable type must be used instead [array (
  'trace' => '
#0: Elementor\Core\Logger\Manager -> shutdown()
',
)]



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[aksellno]

This error seems to cause intermittent instances of error 500: Internal Server Error when loading the editor for the affected pages.

Here is the complete error from the console log of latest version of Chrome when saving the page:

[aksellno]

Downgrading PHP to version 8.3 didn't fix the issue.

[nicholaszein]

Hi @aksellno !

Thank you so much for sharing your findings, and for your patience! 🙏

I think you nailed it! I was able to reproduce it once on PHP 8.4. Now I'm trying to reproduce it consistently so we can find exactly what is the root of the issue.

We are going to find it! 😉

I'll update you as soon as we have a fix for the issue.

Kidn regards