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๐’‚Š๐’‡ด E.lam ๐’‚Š๐’†ท๐’‰ e.la.NIM ๐’‚๐’‰† รฉ-nam ๐’€€๐’†ท๐’ˆ  a-la-ma Elam

Elamite
๐’‡ฝ๐’‚Š๐’†ท๐’ˆฌ๐’Œ‘ Lรš.e-la-mu-รบ

๐’‰ NIM/NEM/NUM nร m, niโ‚‡, nim, nรน, num ๐’‰ โ‰ˆ ๐’†•๐’น โ‰ˆ ๐’‹– tuโ‚ˆ tumโ‚„

One woman was called E-la-mรฌ-tum

meni of Hatamti

Capitals:
Anshan up to the proto-elamite state 4th to 3rd millennium and Susa afterwards.

Elam is initially referred to as Awan ๐’€€๐’‰ฟ๐’€ญ๐’†  a-wa-anแดทแดต "City / Country of Awan"

Banesh near Anshan occupied from the sixth millennium BC

West of Persia and Indus ( Parahshum and Meluhha ) ๐’ˆฅ๐’„ฉ๐’…†๐’†  Mar-แธซa-ลกi Marhasi Waraแธซลกe Parhasi Barhasi Parhasi ๐’€๐’Š๐’„ด๐’‹ง๐’†  pa2-ra-ah-shum2-ki Parahshum

สฐElam ๐’‰๐’ˆ ๐’† 

๐’‰๐’†  NIM.KI "High Land" ืจืžื el'rฤmฤ @ Iran
Elamite ๐’„ฌ๐’†ท๐’ถ๐’‹พ แธซalla-tamโ‚†-ti /haltamti/
Linear ๐œŽพ๐œŽ…๐œ‚๐œ”๐œŽ…๐œง โ€ขHalสฟtamสฟti
Hebrew ืขึตื™ืœึธื สฟฤ“lฤm

๐œŽพ โ‰ˆ ๐’„ฌ HAL

Much corruption of the name over the ages, but reconstructable via syllabaries:

๐’น๐’„ฌ๐’†ท๐’ถ๐’‹พ สฟhaltamti > Elแต—amtu > Elแต—am > ๐’‰๐’ˆ ๐’†  elamtu Elam
๐œŽพ๐œŽ…๐œ‚๐œ”๐œŽ…๐œง โ€ขHalสฟtamสฟti
๐œŽพ๐œŽ…๐œ‚๐œ”๐œŽ…๐œง Halแตtamti
๐œŽพ๐œŽ…๐œ‚๐œ”๐œŽ…๐œง Hatamtti
๐œŽฝ๐œ‚๐œ“๐œง Hatamti La Medina ๐œ“Ÿ ๐“‹ฌ

๐œŽฝ๐œ‚๐œ“๐œง Hatamti โ‰ˆ ๐’‰๐’ˆ ๐’†  โ€ขHut.MA ๐Ÿ›–

"Middle Earth"
The Medes ๐Žถ๐Ž ๐Žญ Mฤda- ฮœฮทฮดฮฟฮน Mฤ“doi Latin: Medi ๐’†ณ๐’ˆ ๐’•๐’€€๐’€€ {mat}Madaya ๐’ˆ ๐’‹ฌ๐’€€๐’€€ Mฤtฤya
๐’†ณ ๐’‹ฌ๐’€€๐’€€ ๐Žข ๐Žบ๐Žฉ แต—hลซja

แธซat < แธซurt

๐œพ๐œณ๐œŽ… แธซurt "land" ๐“ ๐“…œ ๐“ ๐“ˆ… | arable land | ๐“ ๐“ƒญ ๐“ˆ‡ ๐“ฅ | low-lying land | <> Ela'mat ๐’†ณ KUR/MAT

Awan & Anshan

"The mighty kingdom of Awan defeated Ur and Sumer and held hegemony for 356 years"

El'Lamm El'ram

๐’‡ป <?> ๐’‰๐’†  ืจืžื el'rฤmฤ @ Iran

El'Limes

๐’Œ‹๐’€ธ๐’‹ฐ๐’†ธ๐’ˆจ๐’„‘ eli-mi-is limis boundary
๐’‡ท๐’ˆช๐’‹พ li-mi-ti limit surrounding (cities round it)

๐œŽพ โ‰ˆ ๐’„ฌ HAL as determinant or article ๐’„ฌ < ๐’†ณ :

๐’„ฌ hal country ๐’„ฉ๐’€  hal; ha-al hill ๐’„ฌ < ๐’†ณ kur "elevated" EL โ‡ง

๐œŽพ๐œŽ…๐œ‚๐œ”๐œŽ…๐œง ื” Tamสฟti
๐œ‘ ๐œ‘ž ๐œ‘Ÿ ๐œ‘  Temi Demi Semi
๐’‹ ล Eล 2 Susa โ‡” Semi
๐’‚ž ล Eล 4 Susa
๐’‚ž EREN Iran Elam

The rivalry between powers of Irak ( Eridu, Uruk, Sumer Akkad Babylon ) and Iran ( Ray Susa Anshan Jiroft )
swang back and forth like a pendulum:
At the beginning and end of the Ubaid period, Iran was slightly higher developed than the alluvium, but in the Uruk period Susa II and Syrian Anatolian enclaves of Uruk reveal a clear dominance of Mesopotamian powers.
In the Jamdat Nasr period the Uruk state disintegrated into balkanized city states

Elam "elevated" โ‡”
country ๐’„ฌ;๐’„ฉ๐’€  hal; ha-al hill hall highland ๐’„ฌ < ๐’†ณ kur
city, town ๐’€€๐’€  a-al hall ๐’„ฌ < UR < ๐’†ณ kur

๐’‰ โ‰ˆ ๐“†› = ๐’†จ
๐’‰ NEM/NIM namak ๐“†›
๐’‰ Elam ๐’‚ž EREN Iran yiram โฒฃโฒโฒ™โฒ“ rami ๐“‚‹ ๐“…“ ๐“†› ๐“‚ป
๐’‰ e'Nam elam ?
๐’‰ โ‡”

Elam /หˆiหlษ™m/
Linear Elamite: Hatamti
Cuneiform Elamite: ๐’น๐’„ฌ๐’†ท๐’ถ๐’‹พ ๐’น-Hal-La-tam-ti haltamti
Sumerian: ๐’‰ ๐’†  elam
Akkadian: ๐’‰๐’ˆ ๐’†  elamtu
Hebrew: ืขึตื™ืœึธื สฟฤ“lฤm < gi'lam
Old Persian: ๐Žข๐Žบ๐Žฉ hลซja

๐’‡ฝ๐’‰๐’ˆ ๐’†  Lu Elama.ki : Le Elamite
๐’‡ฝ๐’‚Š๐’†ท๐’ˆฌ๐’Œ‘ Lu Elamuu : Le Elamite

Susa ๐’ˆน๐’‚ž๐’†  ลกuลกin ๐‚๐Žข๐๐Ž  ร‡ลซลกฤ
๐’ˆ LUM โ‡” Elam / Susa (I swear I saw Susa being written ๐’ˆ๐’ˆ)
๐’ˆ NUM ๐’‰ NIM Elam

๐’ˆน๐’‚ž๐’†  MUล .EREN Mother ๐’‚ž Eren โ‡” Elam ๐’„‘๐’‚ž : Ced.EREN = cedern
๐’ˆน๐’‚ž ลกuลกin Susanna > Inanna nin-an-ak "Lady of Heaven" ๐’Šฉ๐’Œ†๐’€ญ unattested
๐’ˆน๐’‚ž ลกuลกin Susanna < หขIshtarโฟแตƒ
๐’ˆน MUล แตƒโฟโฟแตƒ โ‡” Mizraim ๐’ˆช๐’„‘๐’Š‘๐’„ฟ Miแนฃriสพi

Unfortunately neither Elamaite nor Harappan/Indus script currently have unicode blocks.
Many Elamite signs are familiar from other systems:

๐’…ค๐’Šญ๐’€ญ๐’ˆน ๐’‚ž puzur๐’€ญลกuลกinak = ๐’Œ‹๐’Œ‹๐’€ญ๐’ˆน๐’‚ž
PU โ‹ ี“ โ‹ ษธ โ‹ B โ‹ ๐Šท๐Ž” bipart โ‡” ๐€Ÿ? ๐™?
zu โ‹ ZA ๐Ž• Zain ๐Ž‘ ZU ลšade ๐‚ SSA ๐’ ZA โ‡” ๐’Œ‰ โ‡” ๐“Šƒ
R โ‹ ๐“Žซ โ‹ ๐“‚‹
ล u ๐’ˆ โ‹ ๅฝก shฤn ไธ‰ sฤn ๅท› chuฤn ๅท, ๅทœ channel ๐™ฆ? โ‡” sys
NA โ‹ ๐“ˆ–๐“ˆ– โ‹ ๐ฆŠ โ‹ niรฉr ไบŒ 2 nahr ู†ู‡ุฑ nฤru
k โ‹ เค• โ‹ ๐ŒŠK in one form:

Only the letter shi seems like a mismatch wa? โ‹๐€ท โ‹๐˜ฎ? โ‹๐“‡ฏ? pta?

While the 'n' in Inshushinak does contain an ๐“ˆ– (n), we suspect a more complicated reading, similar to EN ๐’‚—


The letters ta and ti in Ha-ta-m-ti seem about right given their similarity to ฮธ, ๐“Š• and duality
One might be closer to tc though.

The letter ha corresponds graphically, phonetically to ๐’„ฌ, even in its usage (and semantically?) in ๐’น๐’„ฌ๐’†ท๐’ถ๐’‹พ ๐’น-Hal-La-tam-ti โ€ขhaltamti โ‹ Hatamti
Given the universal reading of kur-signs similar to ๐’†  ki, we suggest that Ha<Ka

New evidence shows that Elamite was continuously in use from proto-elamite 3200 BC to Linear Elamite 1850 BC, until it was fully replaced with the cuneiform representation of elamite and finally disappeared around 300BC. It developed as a sister system with the Sumerian language from a common ancestry of counting tablets with select logograms.

The Elamite language is still not fully deciphered, but some words indicate the presence of wanderwords:
not inยฌna ๐“‚œ
foot ba-at, pa-at ๐“ƒ€ ๐“‚พ
fruit bu-ur ืคื™ืจ ๐“‰ ๐“‚‹ ๐“ ๐“ฏ ๐“Œพ ๐“ฅ โ‡” Brut
mother am-ma mama
father at-ta, ad-da vatta,dad
worm *krmi- ะบะธั€ะผ! krumm wurm เค•เฅ€เคกเคผเคพ kฤซแน›ฤ ๐…๐Œฐ๐Œฟ๐‚๐Œผ๐ƒ Gewรผrms ั…ะพั€ั…ะพะน
snake ลกi-in ลกinak ๐“†‘๐“ˆ–๐“ฟ๐“†™ โ‡” ๐“‹ด๐“ƒ€๐“ˆ–๐“‚ป serpent
blood sa-an sangue ๐“Šƒ๐“ˆ–๐“†‘๐“‚ ๐“ฅ snรกm เค–เคผเฅ‚เคจ xลซn ่ก€ xuรจn goni gene
horn qa-as-su ฮบฮญฯฮฑs qurs ๐“„‹ ู‚ุฑู†=carn โ‡” ossu,osteo
rope ลกama ๐“ฟ ๐“Ž€ sฤซma@OEN แŒˆแˆ˜แ‹ต gรคmรคd ฯƒฯ‡ฮฟฮนฮฝฮฏ shoini ็ถฑ ใกใช china ็ถฑ ใคใช tsuna โ‡” Strang, Saum
hair ลกe shair
nose *ลกim- ๐“‹ด๐“ˆ–๐“‚‰๐“€ smell, sense
woman zana ะทะฐะฝ san gyne dame ๐“Šƒ๐“๐“ zante
man (human being) ruh, RUH.MEล  ๐€ช ri LU.lg racker, lugal, rag raฤกel ุฑุฌู„ rรกjul
man (human being) โ‡” Human race ๐€ช ri ไบบ ren ๐“‚‹๐“ฟ๐“๐“€€๐“ฅ Adam Ris
here a-ha ๐“‰ป ๐“‚ ๐“ˆ
you (singular) ni, nu (anat) nว ไฝ 
one ki-ir ek erster
three zรญ-ti third dritte 3
stick ngiลก ๐“Œ™ TANg, NG, ๐’„‘ giลก
hand ล U.MEล , kir-pi (hands) ๆ‰‹shว’u carpe 2
mountain el-pi Alp(en)
day na-an noon (ฦ’)
name hi-iลก heisse โ‡” near r.m in Elamite!
all ku-ti-na โ‡” ๐“ŽŸ = ๐’†— kall ๐’Œฆ kalam
other 'daae โ‡” dual
to see siya- seeye
to kill halba- kill.ba
to fight bet โ‹ beat โ‹ fight, battle
to cut massi messer
to come ลกi-in-nu synโ€ฆ
to give *tun- don
to tie rabba wrap rope โ‡” rรคuber = bandit
to count tiri แจ•แจ›แจ„ ั‚ะตั€ะฐั…ัŒ tรฆlle tell โ‡” dรจr iter term
to say tu-ru tell

Adjectives: -ik, -uk, -ka, -ki, -h, -qa, -ha, -ya suffixes? (40%) -ique

long me-lu-uk ฮผฮตฮณฮฌฮปฮฟฯ‚ megalong ๐“„ซ?
full man-da-qa manch, mucho ยตฯซโฒฑโฒ•! ๐“Ž”๐“›? ฯซโฒ“โฒ›โฒ™โฒŸฯฉ?
full pu- full,polyโ€ฆ
old qa-ra, ru-ru gero ๐“Žก๐“Ž›๐“Žก๐“Ž›๐“€˜
good ba-ha, ma-ri-ya bona, merry โ‰  ๐“Šน,๐“„ค๐“†‘๐“‚‹
correct iลกturraka โ‡” straight, streck > rect !!
near kanna (๐“)๐“Žก๐“ˆ–๐“‚ป con ๐“๐“‚‹ ๐“š?
moon itud โ‡” ๐“‡‹๐“†ต๐“‡ณ Iterate ๐“‡น iaH ๐“‡‹๐“Ž›๐“…† โ‡” ๐“‡‹๐“‚๐“Ž›๐“Œ‡ united ๐“€ญ โ‡” โฒโฒ›โฒโฒงโฒŸโฒ—โฒ anatole โ‡” tide,Zeit โ‡” ๐“Ž›!!

Given that Egypt had very strong ties with Elam in the 4th millennium, it is unsurprising, that many of the above words are similar in both languages.

๐’ฏ 74607 ๐’ฏ 1236F CUNEIFORM SIGN KAP ELAMITE ?

๐’†๐’€ญ๐’Š๐’†  Bฤb๐’€ญraโฟ "Gate to Iran/Elam" Babylon

Ishtar Esther Eastern

Ishtar may be associated with the Eastern Venus. โ‡” Queen Vashti
The Book of Esther "the Megillah" "the Scroll" takes place in Elam 5th BCE
Mordecai โ‰ˆ Marduk
The story of a Jewish woman in Persia, born as Hadassah but known as Esther, who becomes queen of Persia and thwarts a genocide of her people. Eating HamanTashen (transl. "Haman's pockets / ears")
on the 14th day of the Hebrew month of Adar
About the annual festival of Purim ืคึผื•ึผืจึดื™ื "cleromancy ื’ึผื•ึนืจึธืœ lots" โ‡” ฯ€Ram?

๐’…†๐’‰ igi-nim iginim upper land <> Elam!

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