RailsCore panel

Presenters: RailsCore members:

• Aaron Patterson (@tenderlove)
• Yehuda Katz (@wycats)
• Jim Weirich (@jimweirich)
• S. Pastorino (@spastorino) TODO full name

Host: Evan Phoenix (@evanphx)

Summary

A panel of RailsCore members took questions about Rails and its future.

Quotes

• "Fuck you if you use unless ... else" - @evanphx
• "GitHub needs an issue bankruptcy button." - @evanphx
• "Failure of leadership!" - Some guy in the audience TODO name

Notes

• Thing you would remove?

  • Naming of testing is confusing - @jimweirich
  • StringInquirer (Rails.env.development?). 'to'.in? ['blah'] ("backwards include?")
  • ActiveResource "an anemic toolset" (Rick Olsen's) - @wycats
  • Scopes - use class methods. Esp. with lambdas. - @spastorino

• Thing you would add?

  • -Cornify- Rake - @tenderlove
  • Queuing - @wycats
  • Identity maps (But hard for backwards compatibility, cache invalidation. It's been removed in master.) - @jimweirich
  • (missed it) - @spastorino

• @tenderlove: Rewriting Rack?

  • Decreasing stack depth
  • Lotta work
  • Hard
  • Interface written

• Public Pivotal Tracker for Rails Core?

  • Most people fix stuff they need. Mostly random. Except @tenderlove (and @spastorino? maybe?). - @wycats
  • GitHub issues -> dartboard - @tenderlove
  • Pivotal isn't meant for projects like Rails. - @wycats
  • Doesn't work on my open source. - @jimweirich
  • Wouldn't help. - @wycats
  • I do stuff we need for work. Or stuff that seems like a common theme of problems. - @tenderlove

• Rails API controller? What makes it better? (Not sure I understood the question) FIXME

  • Not sure I understood...
  • It got reverted.
  • But basically it sounds like Rails has too much stuff by default. Sinatra is a lot faster.

• Concurrency better? autoload bad (not thread-safe)?

  • Gonna remove. - @tenderlove
  • No. - @wycats
  • Long question. - @evanphx
  • autoload makes it so we don't need require as much. Eager load everything in production... (cut off) - @wycats
  • I have doubts. - @tenderlove
  • move on...

• @tenderlove Abrupt ending? No hugs? - @abelmartin

  • Can't top last year. Kept it real. Critical of Rails because I care. - @tenderlove

• So many open issues on GitHub?

  • "GitHub needs an issue bankruptcy button." - @evanphx
  • Need bug busting days. FIXME not sure who said
  • Need canned responses. - @tenderlove
  • Close and ask for more info. - @wycats
  • Community triage. - @tenderlove
  • Everybody triage 3 tickets. - @evanphx
  • (We'd need rules, @benjaminoakes thinks.)
  • Tag with version of Rails it's for. - @spastorino

• Evan: Rubinius? - @tenderlove

  • More project management.
  • Focusing on 2.0

Coloring books contest. @tenderlove's cat for the win. :)

External Links

• puma