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FAPI WG Meeting Notes (2016-12-07)

Date & Time: 2016-12-07 15:00 UTC
(07:00 PDT, 15:00 UK, 16:00 Denmark, 00:00+1 JST)

Location: GoToMeeting https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/321819862

Agenda

The meeting was called to order at 15:05 UTC.

1.   Roll Call

  • Present: Nat, Sascha, Anton
  • Regrets: Henrik, Dave
  • Guest: none.

2.   Adoption of the Agenda (Nat)

  • Adopted as is.

3.   Working Draft 02

  • Financial_API_WD_001.md Financial API - Part 1: Read Only API Security Profile
  • Financial_API_WD_002.md Financial API - Part 2: Read and Write API Security Profile
  • Financial_API_WD_003.md Financial API - Part 3: Open Data API
  • Financial_API_WD_004.md Financial API - Part 4: Protected Data API and Schema - Read only
  • Financial_API_WD_005.md Financial API - Part 5: Protected Data API and Schema - Read and Write

3.1.   Last call on Part 1: Read Only API Security Profile (Nat)

4.   Issues (Nat)

Additional issues (#44, #45, #46, #47, #48, #49) have been posted and the callers went over them.

4.1.   #44: Read Only profile only needs GET not POST?

  • #44
  • Comment type: technical
  • Callers agreed to require only GET.

4.2.   #45: Wording around resources and resource server

  • #45
  • Comment type: editorial
  • Callers agreed to accept the proposal.

4.3.   #46: x-fapi-InteractionId

  • #46
  • Comment type: technical
  • Sascha also supported the idea to stick with "-" and not camel case.
  • Callers agreed to accept the proposal.

4.4.   #47: Confusing use of client and server

  • #47
  • Comment type: editorial
  • Callers agreed that it can further clarify.
  • Sascha volunteered to come up with a better wording.

4.5.   #48: Definition or description around log entry

  • #48
  • Comment type: editorial
  • Nat explained that we are using "logging" without explanation. Perhaps having a new clause on logging would be a good idea.
  • Needs somebody to come up with the text.
  • Having said that, since it does not impact the implementation, the nature of the change is editorial so we could potentially postpone it until the Final draft.

4.6.   #49: x-fapi-FinancialId

  • #49
  • Comment type: technical
  • It is at best confusing. the value of x-fapi-FianncialId identifies the issuer but it might not be a URI and thus different from the value of iss.
  • It is used as routing number at service bureau. The advantage of having it is that it does not have to parse the payload.
  • There are some downside as well:
    • Duplication of information;
    • Risk of the consumer of the payload not checking the iss value but using the header value, which is not protected.
  • The callers agreed to consult with Anoop and Brian about the needs for it.

4.7.   #32: How to communicate back the partial errors to the client (Sascha)

  • #32
  • Sascha started working on it.

4.8.   #39: 2nd WD Part 1 6.2.1 -- Comments about DDA remains (Nat)

  • #39
  • Has been removed.

4.9.   #40: 2nd WD: Part 1: 6.2.1: Constraint on the InteractionId string unclear (Nat)

  • #40
  • Mandates UUID now.

5.   Events

5.1.   API Days (Nat)

  • http://www.apidays.io/
  • Dec 13 & 14 @ Paris. Nat got a ticket to Paris now.
  • Two talk sessions:
    • one in CA session (workshop on the 13th?)
    • one in Banking API session (25 min. ) on the afternoon of the 14th.
  • The one on the 13th will elaborate on Sascha's presentation @ OIDF WS this October.
  • The one on the 14th will elaborate more on the security aspects of the OAuth/OpenID/JWS/JWT as previously submit in this list.
    • Will talk about Part 1.
    • Will talk about Part 2's direction.
    • Any other ideas?
  • Nat will develop the slides probably on a corroborative editing platform so that WG members can assist him.

5.2.   CA World Report (Sascha)

  • Sascha talked to banking customers at CA World and they were very positive about FAPI work that they now consider joining the WG.
  • Sascha observed that
    • customers providing Apps want to use the newest and greatest technology; and
    • the industry's skepticism against OAuth is now disappearing and they are starting to see the potential.

5.3.   Digital Finance World 2017 (Nat)

  • https://digitalfinance.world/
  • KuppingerColes event.
  • Mainly on Blockchain and Distributed Ledger so not so sure...
  • WG members are asked to evaluate the needs for it.

6.   External Orgs

6.1.   Implementation Entity (Nat)

  • Dave will send in a written report.

6.2.   ISO/TC68 (Nat)

  • On hold now for other priorities. Will resume in the new year.

6.3.   Others

  • Nat will be talking to

7.   AOB

7.1.   shall v.s MUST (Sascha/Nat)

  • Sascha asked for the clarification on the strength of 'shall' v.s. 'must'. He wanted to be clear that those 'shall' needs to be adheared to and is not optional.
  • Nat explained that the language is defined in ISO/IEC Directive Part 2 and 'shall' is a requirement -- it is not optional and it really is a formal way of saying 'must'.

7.2.   Next Call (Pacific)

  • 2016-12-14 23:00 UTC
    (15:00 PDT, 23:00 UK, 00:00 Denmark, 08:00+1 JST)
  • Regrets from Anton.

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