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FAPI WG Agenda & Meeting Notes (2025-01-23)

Date & Time: 2025-01-24 00:00 UTC Location: https://zoom.us/j/97456084642?pwd=bTRFVzk4ZmlRK1M3bEprRlN5c3JFZz09

The meeting was called to order at 00:00 UTC.

  • Attendees: Nat, Mark, Anoop
  • Regrets:
  • OAuth Security Workshop 2025 (February 26-28, 2025) Location: Reykjavik, Iceland
  • OIDF is a sponsor
    • Final deadline for presentation submissions: January 12, 2025
    • Certification team will meet prior to workshop
  • DICE: March 4-5 in Zurich
  • ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 27/WG5: March 10-15, 2025 in Fairfax
  • ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 27: March 17-18, 2025 in Fairfax
  • MOSIP Connect: March 11-13 in Philippines
  • IETF: March 15-21 in Bangkok
  • OIDF Workshop: April 7th (prior to IIW)
  • IIW Spring 2025: April 8-10
  • FDX (US) Summit April 21-24 (Washington/Gaylord National Harbor, US)

OIDF calendar on website is current: https://openid.net/calendar/

  • US open banking CFBB approves FDX (Financial Data Exchange) as standard body.

https://www.consumerfinance.gov/about-us/newsroom/cfpb-approves-application-from-financial-data-exchange-to-issue-standards-for-open-banking/

  • [Issue #716] Message Signing reliance draft - https://github.com/openid/fapi/issues/716
    • discussed regarding reliance on draft OAuth 2.0 JWT Introspection Response and Agreement to:
      • Add a note in the document about the draft reference to be updated before final publication
      • Update references once RFC is published
  • [Issue #597 ] Binding message limitation - https://github.com/openid/fapi/issues/597
    • Need to reference cross-device BCP and security analysis
    • Tim provided diagram illustrating binding message limitations
    • Agreement to reference relevant sections from cross-device BCP
  • [Issue #674] Same-device flows. Raised by Curity https://github.com/openid/fapi/issues/674 . Consensus that:
    • Same-device flows should use redirect rather than CIBA
    • Adding special tokens for same-device flows not recommended
    • May be better suited for discussion at OSW (Security workshop)

FAPI CIBA and OpenID connect Integration - Should FAPI CIBA require OpenID Connect.

Current status:

  • Core CIBA spec is heavily tied to OpenID Connect
  • Discussion about making it optional in FAPI CIBA profile
  • Concerns raised about maintaining consistency between core CIBA and FAPI CIBA

Key points:

  • Could borrow parameters like login_hint from OpenID Connect without requiring full implementation
  • Need to consider impact on existing implementations
  • Agreement to draft potential wording for making OpenID Connect optional
  • Private Key JWT Audience Restriction. [PR # 529] https://bitbucket.org/openid/fapi/pull-requests/529
    • Discussion on approach for different specs:
    • For FAPI 1 errata: Decision to wait for underlying specs to be updated
    • For FAPI CIBA: Agreement that it falls back to core FAPI specifications
    • For CIBA itself: Recommendation to wait for OIDC errata rather than making piecemeal changes
    • Action: Dave to add comments to both PRs explaining the decision
  • Final Review Process
    • Agreement to restart the public review process
      • Final Specification public review period: Monday, December 9, 2024 to Friday, February 7, 2025 (60 days)
      • Final Specification vote announcement: Saturday, January 25, 2025
      • Final Specification early voting opens: Saturday, February 1, 2025
      • Final Specification voting period: Saturday, February 8, 2024 to Saturday, February 15, 2025 (7 days)*
    • Message Signing spec to be handled separately
    • One PR remaining for HTTP signatures separation

Discussion of three main areas to focus on:

  • FAPI CIBA
  • HTTP Signatures
  • Implementation & Deployment Advice

Decision: Prioritize FAPI CIBA due to:

  • Existing conformance tests
  • Potential deployment plans in Brazil
  • Relatively contained scope of remaining work

Next call will be an Pacific Call. Next Pacific call will be in Next year (02-06-2025 @ 5pm PST) UTC - 02-07-2025 1:00 AM.

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