FAPI_Meeting_Notes_2023 01 18_Atlantic

FAPI WG Agenda & Meeting Notes (2023-01-18)

• Date & Time: 2023-01-18T14:00Z
• Location: GoToMeeting https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/321819862
• Self: https://github.com/openid/fapi/wiki/FAPI_Meeting_Notes_2022-11-30_Atlantic

Agenda

• 1.   Roll Call (Dave/Nat)
• 2.   Adoption of Agenda (Dave/Nat)
• 3.   Second Implementer’s Drafts of Two FAPI 2.0 Specifications
• 4.   CFPB section 1033 Personal Financial Data Rights questions
• 5.   Events (Mike L.)
  • 5.1.   EIC Submission due Feb. 8
  • 5.2.   FIDO Taipei
• 6.   Internal Liaisons
  • 6.1.   FAPI Objectives for this year (Dave)
• 7.   External Orgs & Liaisons (Mike L./Chris)
  • 7.1.   SAMA
• 8.   PRs (Dave)
  • 8.1.   PR 402
• 9.   Issues (Nat)
  • 9.1.   Tracking: Implementers of FAPI 1.0 and FAPI 2.0
  • 9.2.   Deprecation & removal of FAPI 1 Implementer's Draft conformance certification tests/programme
  • 9.3.   Other issues
• 10.   AOB (Nat)
• 11.   Chat Transcripts

The meeting was called to order at 14:__ UTC.

1.   Roll Call (Dave/Nat)

• Attending:
• Regrets:
• Guest:

2.   Adoption of Agenda (Dave/Nat)

3.   Second Implementer’s Drafts of Two FAPI 2.0 Specifications

• https://openid.net/2023/01/08/notice-of-vote-for-proposed-second-implementers-drafts-of-two-fapi-2-0-specifications/

4.   CFPB section 1033 Personal Financial Data Rights questions

• Source: https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/documents/cfpb_data-rights-rulemaking-1033-SBREFA_outline_2022-10.pdf
• https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/documents/cfpb_data-rights-rulemaking-1033-SBREFA-high-level-summary-discussion-guide_2022-10.pdf
• Draft response: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mjmqPzfRI1l0ki9qnyaSz2YwAkH54gfG8A4lJtzA0WI/edit

5.   Events (Mike L.)

OIDF Calendar: https://openid.net/foundation/calendar-of-events/ has been updated.

5.1.   EIC Submission due Feb. 8

• Need to submit one from FAPI. Joseph+Daniel probably do one.

5.2.   FIDO Taipei

• Feb 6 - 9
• Kosuke and Nat are going.

6.   Internal Liaisons

6.1.   FAPI Objectives for this year (Dave)

• Dave mentioned the candidate roadmap.
• Joseph added Grant Management.

• Conformance test:

  • Message signing
  • DPoP
  • Grant Management
  • CIBA (for FAPI 1 and 2? or just 2?)
  • Funding needs to be sought.

7.   External Orgs & Liaisons (Mike L./Chris)

7.1.   SAMA

• FAPI 1 advanced profile and test rolled out. Had a workshop
• Certification to be formally rolled out in Feb.

8.   PRs (Dave)

8.1.   PR 402

• https://bitbucket.org/openid/fapi/pull-requests/402
• Just three typos.

9.   Issues (Nat)

9.1.   Tracking: Implementers of FAPI 1.0 and FAPI 2.0

• #555
• A few new implementations have been added.

9.2.   Deprecation & removal of FAPI 1 Implementer's Draft conformance certification tests/programme

• #570

• OBIE probably would not have problems with it. Note OB is going through change.

  • https://www.openbanking.org.uk/news/the-obie-marks-completion-of-cma-open-banking-roadmap-on-fifth-anniversary/

9.3.   Other issues

• Privacy consideration etc. is holding back the progress of the draft.
• Nat apologized that he is going to work on it next week so that we can deal with it next week.

10.   AOB (Nat)

n/a

The call adjourned at 14:40

11.   Chat Transcripts

Dave Tonge (Moneyhub) to Everyone   11:05 PM        1.   Roll Call (Dave/Nat)

2. Adoption of Agenda (Dave/Nat)
3. Second Implementer’s Drafts of Two FAPI 2.0 Specifications
4. CFPB section 1033 Personal Financial Data Rights questions
5. Events (Mike L.)
6. Internal Liaisons
7. External Orgs & Liaisons (Mike L./Chris)
8. Drafts Updates (Nat)
9. PRs (Dave)
10. Issues (Dave)
11. AOB (Nat)

Me to Everyone 11:07 PM FAPI Objectives for this year Me to Everyone 11:08 PM https://openid.net/2023/01/08/notice-of-vote-for-proposed-second-implementers-drafts-of-two-fapi-2-0-specifications/ Taka (Authlete) to Everyone 11:11 PM https://bitbucket.org/openid/fapi/pull-requests/402 Me to Everyone 11:12 PM * Source: https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/documents/cfpb_data-rights-rulemaking-1033-SBREFA_outline_2022-10.pdf * https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/documents/cfpb_data-rights-rulemaking-1033-SBREFA-high-level-summary-discussion-guide_2022-10.pdf * Draft response: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mjmqPzfRI1l0ki9qnyaSz2YwAkH54gfG8A4lJtzA0WI/edit

Kosuke Koiwai to Everyone 11:15 PM Im coming! Dave Tonge (Moneyhub) to Everyone 11:18 PM E.g. FAPI Baseline moving to FINAL FAPI Message signing moving to FINAL Security Analysis of Work Package 2: FAPI Message Signing, CIBA, Dynamic Client Registration completed – (Marcus Almgren to project manage, Australia funded) Security Analysis of Work Package 3: Grant management, Security Event Token, and other related OIDF specs: (SSF, CAEP, OIDC for IA) - (Marcus Almgren to project manage, co-funding requested from WG members Support Public/Private Requests for Comment on formation of Open Banking/ Open Data ecosystem – CFPB, Canada, Saudi, etc. (new tech lead) Global advocacy / support in existing and new markets, particularly expansion in Latam, Africa, Asia (new tech lead) Publication of “Open Banking, Open Data: Ready to Cross Borders” whitepaper. (January, Dima) Potential Formation of Community Group adjacent to FAPI for advocacy of latest whitepaper, and evaluation of governance options for ongoing support. (Dima, Gail, others TBC 1H 2023) Dave Tonge (Moneyhub) to Everyone 11:21 PM grant management to final Dave Tonge (Moneyhub) to Everyone 11:21 PM implementation and deployment advice document Dave Tonge (Moneyhub) to Everyone 11:22 PM tests for fapi2 security and message signing to be completed Dave Tonge (Moneyhub) to Everyone 11:23 PM conformance tests for grant management Dave Tonge (Moneyhub) to Everyone 11:23 PM Align CIBA to FAPI2 Dave Tonge (Moneyhub) to Everyone 11:26 PM https://bitbucket.org/openid/fapi/pull-requests/402 Dave Tonge (Moneyhub) to Everyone 11:28 PM https://github.com/openid/fapi/issues/555 Dave Tonge (Moneyhub) to Everyone 11:28 PM https://github.com/openid/fapi/issues/570 Dave Tonge (Moneyhub) to Everyone 11:37 PM https://www.openbanking.org.uk/news/the-obie-marks-completion-of-cma-open-banking-roadmap-on-fifth-anniversary/ Me to Everyone 11:38 PM Sorry, I will get to the ticket next week. Joseph Heenan (OIDF/Authlete) to Everyone 11:39 PM Thanks Nat.