IrcLog2009 05 27

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17:32:18  <bdbaddog>     Good evening. 
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17:33:54  <sgk>  good evening 
17:33:59  <sgk>  afternoon 
17:34:00  <sgk>  whatever 
17:34:17  <bdbaddog>     :) 
17:34:53  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     I'm back... I was fiddling with 2425 again... 
17:35:29  <sgk>  weird symptom 
17:35:46  <sgk>  variant dirs are, in general, relatively platform-independent 
17:36:09  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     Yeah, but I was surprised that it worked, even for dot not local 
17:36:35  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     which was my first guess. 
17:38:53  <sgk>  i'm guessing no gary tonight 
17:39:15  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     Doesn't look like it. 
17:41:46  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     Uh, looking at your comment, does the test case use that egregious hack? 
17:42:09  <sgk>  what egregious hack?  i haven't opened up any attached configs 
17:42:45  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     he sets node.attributes.flag directly. 
17:43:07  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     As far as I know, that's not tested anywhere; it's a hack. 
17:43:38  <sgk>  he sets it? 
17:43:45  <sgk>  looks to me like that's coming from Tool\link.py 
17:43:47  <sgk>  which is ours... 
17:44:22  <sgk>  we're talking about 2423, right? 
17:44:37  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     Yes, I misread it.  You're right. 
17:45:10  <sgk>  question is how he's feeding it to the builder so that it ends up down there without the node transformation 
17:45:30  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     Point. 
17:46:01  <sgk>  heck, no reason not to just update it here in real time... 
17:46:23  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     go for it.  Assign it to Bill to research? 
17:46:31  <bdbaddog>     if he's on windows shouldn't it be calling mslink? 
17:46:31  <sgk>  yes 
17:46:43  <sgk>  i though mslink calls link under the covers 
17:46:52  <sgk>  for common things like setting the shared attribute on a node 
17:48:39  <bdbaddog>     hmm. I don't think it does. but research. 
17:48:48  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     done 
17:49:21  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     2424, I'll send him a nice note. 
17:49:57  <sgk>  done 
17:50:04  <sgk>  2423 done 
17:50:05  <sgk>  2424 done 
17:50:17  <sgk>  2425: 
17:50:38  <sgk>  yow 
17:50:47  <sgk>  bill, see what you mean re: the svn repostiory 
17:50:51  <sgk>  just went to sync a tree to try to look 
17:51:14  <sgk>  svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/scons/trunk' 
17:51:20  <bdbaddog>     yup. same on tigris "browse source" page, but parts synced fine from tigris.. 
17:51:21  <sgk>  svn: Could not open the requested SVN filesystem 
17:51:25  <sgk>  is that what you're seeing? 
17:51:31  <bdbaddog>     yes. 
17:51:46  <sgk>  [GregNoel](GregNoel), are you having problems with tigris.org's svn? 
17:51:49  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     yes 
17:51:43  <bdbaddog>     [http://scons.tigris.org/source/browse/scons/](http://scons.tigris.org/source/browse/scons/) 
17:51:46  <bdbaddog>     look at that page... 
17:51:53  <bdbaddog>     Berkeley DB error for filesystem 
17:52:33  <sgk>  okay, lovely 
17:52:42  <sgk>  anyone contacted tigris.org yet? 
17:52:44  *      garyo-home (n=[chatzill@209-6-158-38.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com](mailto:chatzill@209-6-158-38.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com)) has joined #scons 
17:52:50  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     I haven't checked feedback@tigris, but I assumed it was system-wide, but if parts is OK, then maybe not. 
17:52:56  <sgk>  hey garyo-home 
17:53:01  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     Belated hello... 
17:53:03  <garyo-home>   hi folks 
17:53:06  <garyo-home>   sorry I'm late. 
17:53:14  <sgk>  we're just discussing our sick SVN server at tigris.org 
17:53:25  <sgk>  already updated 2423 
17:53:31  <sgk>  and greg will close 2424 
17:53:40  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     already done 
17:53:48  <garyo-home>   great! 
17:54:03  <garyo-home>   I saw the server error today, someone mentioned it on the ML. 
17:55:34  <sgk>  is there any kind of site status/announcement page at tigris.org? 
17:55:53  <sgk>  if so, they have it relatively well hidden... :-/ 
17:56:14  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     I just checked feedback@tigris; no outage reports. 
17:56:27  <sgk>  how did you check? 
17:56:46  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     [http://www.tigris.org/ds/viewForumSummary.do?dsForumId=926](http://www.tigris.org/ds/viewForumSummary.do?dsForumId=926) 
17:57:28  <sgk>  ah, of course.  how intuitive 
17:57:55  <sgk>  is there some way that mortals should be able to navigate there? 
17:58:06  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     It's probably at the bottom of your "my pages" tab; all owners are subscribed. 
17:58:37  *      sgk slaps forehead 
17:58:54  <sgk>  of course!  why didn't i think about looking on "My Pages" for system-wide things...! 
17:58:57  <sgk>  </snark> 
17:59:21  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     I keep thinking I should convert it to email, since I rarely check into it, but the signal-to-noise ratio is so low. 
17:59:33  <sgk>  no doubt 
17:59:57  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     And look in the left margin; there's always stuff there that slips in unobtrusively. 
17:59:36  <sgk>  anyway 
17:59:54  <sgk>  you want to send them something, since you have history with them? 
18:00:10  <sgk>  or would you rather i send them something (since you have history with them... :-))? 
18:00:31  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     Yeah, I'll write them.  Jack has good asbestos armor. 
18:00:45  <sgk>  thnx 
18:00:51  <sgk>  2425? 
18:01:24  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     2425 worksforme, even under duress. 
18:03:06  <garyo-home>   I don't have my windows box handy but I can test it there in the AM. 
18:03:45  <sgk>  probably makes sense to get a config 
18:04:04  <sgk>  this smells like a dependency problem in the configuration 
18:04:34  <sgk>  that's only noticed in the case where there's an actual error in compilation 
18:04:20  <garyo-home>   Is there not enough info in the attachment? 
18:04:43  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     Attachment is pretty clear, once you clear out the VS cruft 
18:04:56  <sgk>  oh, my mistake 
18:05:36  <garyo-home>   hm, variant_dir with a drive name... 
18:06:37  <garyo-home>   I'll try it in the morning and let you know.  Give it to me for research. 
18:06:44  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     done 
18:06:46  <bdbaddog>     just tried. 
18:06:55  <sgk>  aha.... 
18:07:04  <garyo-home>   ...and? 
18:07:23  <bdbaddog>     repeats for me as per the bug. 
18:07:35  <bdbaddog>     but my trunk may be a bit old. 
18:08:27  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     Well, if we can reproduce it, who should take it? 
18:09:37  <garyo-home>   well, Steven fixed the other related bug 2002... 
18:09:50  <sgk>  yeah, that makes sense 
18:10:26  <sgk>  (if we want it fixed some time in 2010...  :-/) 
18:10:26  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     milestone and priority? 
18:10:43  <sgk>  2.x p3 
18:10:49  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     done 
18:11:00  <sgk>  ~5 minutes left for me 
18:11:05  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     How about the 1.3 release? 
18:11:13  <sgk>  bill, where are you at w/1.3?  what help do you need? 
18:11:54  <bdbaddog>     just got back on it today. trying to trace down failure on msvsTests.py 
18:12:30  <bdbaddog>     looks like the perhaps fake registry is not working. 
18:12:45  <sgk>  go ahead and send me output, i can let you know if we can just ignore/drop those tests due to changed apis 
18:12:47  <bdbaddog>     for testcase msvs6and7TestCase it finds only vs6 and not 7 
18:13:23  <bdbaddog>     you'd need my code (as yet not checked in) to reproduce.. 
18:14:15  <sgk>  if it gets to that point, you can send me a patch 
18:14:52  <bdbaddog>     sent 
18:15:00  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     Check it in and see if the [BuildBot](BuildBot) picks it up? 
18:15:37  <bdbaddog>     actaully most of the tests in this file fail. I've just commented out so only one of the failing ones are run to work on that.. 
18:16:11  <sgk>  okay, i'll take a look at that 
18:16:25  <sgk>  [GregNoel](GregNoel):  any buildbot action items for me? 
18:16:41  <sgk>  you sent an updated patch for multiple branches 
18:16:46  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     Have you added the stuff for multi,, 
18:16:51  <sgk>  is it worth using that to try to spin up a branches/vs_revamp buildbot? 
18:16:56  <sgk>  slave that is 
18:17:10  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     yes 
18:17:05  <bdbaddog>     any of those changes gonna make it into buildbot distro? 
18:17:26  <sgk>  okay, i'll look at that too 
18:17:56  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     I believe the patches will enable all branches, so just go ahead with that and see what happens 
18:18:08  <sgk>  [GregNoel](GregNoel):  will do 
18:17:35  <sgk>  re: upstream 
18:17:42  <sgk>  Greg's done a bunch of work on our copy of the console view 
18:18:05  <sgk>  and Nicolas Sylvain has done a bunch on Chromium's 
18:18:05  <sgk>  we need to merge them in one direction or another 
18:18:26  <sgk>  and then nsylvain can pass it up to buildbot proper 
18:18:32  <sgk>  i don't think he's done that yet 
18:19:13  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     Um, I have a _lot_ of fixes; better to let me see his changes and add them.  I also want to add support for multiple branches. 
18:19:45  <sgk>  okay, i'll track down his changes and send you a patch 
18:20:08  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     thanks 
18:18:42  <sgk>  greg, you also had the performance improvmeent on the grid view 
18:18:57  <sgk>  were you going to pass that to buildbot independently? 
18:19:10  <sgk>  or would you like it all wrapped up with the other stuff? 
18:20:04  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     The grid view stuff is relatively minor, but I have some fixes they should incorporate. 
18:19:57  <sgk>  ~1 minute to shuttle stop 
18:20:28  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     I guess that's all then. 
18:20:39  <[GregNoel](GregNoel)>     cul 
18:20:43  <bdbaddog>     :) 
18:20:49  <garyo-home>   ok! 
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18:21:09  <garyo-home>   bye for now 
18:21:10  <sgk>  all right 
18:21:12  <sgk>  thanks everyone 
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18:23:59  <bdbaddog>     I'm off.. good night to all.. 
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